Bill 115 Sucks

[Gyro_Plasma]

Bill 115 has been released in Ontario, Canada and it really has put a downer too every student attending non catholic or private schools. All extra curriculars and and field trips will be postponed when the bill is in place and it is not the teachers fault of this, but the union. Many people are protesting all around Ontario which is fine by me and here are some cons:

Many grade 12 students earn scholarships to attend universities and colleges and they will receive a sum of money for tuition. Due to this bill, many will not be able to add on there resume the clubs or activities they have joined.

Also, many teachers are very outraged on this matter and are protesting all around Canada, as some are even not teaching anymore because of this. As I mentioned before this is not there fault that this has happened and are revolting against the union.

Catholic and Private schools are not effected!!! That is just plain wrong. They get an advantage in competitions and sports and have something to put on there resume to attend university or college.

Overall, I feel that the Teachers Union has gone over board? Does anyone else have an opinion on this matter?

[Dr Frook]

canadians have an education system?

[Boxorino]

canadians have an education system?

omg this site needs a like button

[Mr_Valentine]

Wow. Ashamed to say I didn't even hear about this until now. I'm sorry, but that entire bill sounds like bs to me. What has happened to our education system? What ever happend to equality? If this absurdity ends up extending throughout the nation, I'm going to enroll in a catholic school; assuming protesting wont change anything (which, long term, it probably won't). Not only will students suffer, but teachers have been having a rough time as it is. Freezing wages and hacking away benefits is nothing short of exploitation.

Funny. I was just having a very in-depth argument with my dad today concerning whether facism exceeds democracy. Though each have a romantic quality about them, my belief in democracy just wilted a little bit today.

Thanks for sharing.

[Shadowstar1922]

Wow. Ashamed to say I didn't even hear about this until now. I'm sorry, but that entire bill sounds like bs to me. What has happened to our education system? What ever happend to equality? If this absurdity ends up extending throughout the nation, I'm going to enroll in a catholic school; assuming protesting wont change anything (which, long term, it probably won't). Not only will students suffer, but teachers have been having a rough time as it is. Freezing wages and hacking away benefits is nothing short of exploitation.

Funny. I was just having a very in-depth argument with my dad today concerning whether facism exceeds democracy. Though each have a romantic quality about them, my belief in democracy just wilted a little bit today.

Thanks for sharing.

LOL!

Sorry, but you getting upset by the suposive "inequality" between this Bill with private/ religious schools and public schools is a bit ridiculous.

There's a reason why this doesn't affect religious and private schools. Simply because, THEY ARE NOT APART OF THE EDUCATION SYSTEM! They do things their own way. They are INDEPENDENT from the Education System of Canada. So, if Canada passes a law affecting schools, it only affects PUBLIC SCHOOLS since Canada only has power over public schools. Same thing in every other country.


Canada can't force Bill 115 onto religious and private schools because they don't have any connections to Canada's education system. Canada funds public schools, Canada establishes public schools and what not, while private and religious schools are started by average people, or just normal citizens.


There is no, diversity of "equality" between these types of schools. Canada simply can't force a law into something they have no control of. Same with every other country.

If Canada had forced Bill 115 on religious and private schools, it would actually be DEFINING the rights of a Democratic State, which Canada is extremely influenced by: Democracy.

Canada simply can't intact their new bill on schools they never even had any administration over.

[Shadow00]

canadians have an education system?

Who needs education when you don't pay 5mil$ to cure a cold?

[Mr_Valentine]

Wow. Ashamed to say I didn't even hear about this until now. I'm sorry, but that entire bill sounds like bs to me. What has happened to our education system? What ever happend to equality? If this absurdity ends up extending throughout the nation, I'm going to enroll in a catholic school; assuming protesting wont change anything (which, long term, it probably won't). Not only will students suffer, but teachers have been having a rough time as it is. Freezing wages and hacking away benefits is nothing short of exploitation.

Funny. I was just having a very in-depth argument with my dad today concerning whether facism exceeds democracy. Though each have a romantic quality about them, my belief in democracy just wilted a little bit today.

Thanks for sharing.

LOL!

Sorry, but you getting upset by the suposive "inequality" between this Bill with private/ religious schools and public schools is a bit ridiculous.

There's a reason why this doesn't affect religious and private schools. Simply because, THEY ARE NOT APART OF THE EDUCATION SYSTEM! They do things their own way. They are INDEPENDENT from the Education System of Canada. So, if Canada passes a law affecting schools, it only affects PUBLIC SCHOOLS since Canada only has power over public schools. Same thing in every other country.


Canada can't force Bill 115 onto religious and private schools because they don't have any connections to Canada's education system. Canada funds public schools, Canada establishes public schools and what not, while private and religious schools are started by average people, or just normal citizens.


There is no, diversity of "equality" between these types of schools. Canada simply can't force a law into something they have no control of. Same with every other country.

If Canada had forced Bill 115 on religious and private schools, it would actually be DEFINING the rights of a Democratic State, which Canada is extremely influenced by: Democracy.

Canada simply can't intact their new bill on schools they never even had any administration over.

I realize my error, considering the fact that Ontario has been hugely affected by having their flow of exports into the USA decreased. Alberta (where I live) is a "have" province, and so I came to the assumption that Ontario didn't have a good enough reason to chastise their teachers. I see now that (due to economic issues within the province) some action is dignified.

As for the equality issue, I wasn't aiming my outrage towards private schools. In Alberta, Catholic schools are indeed funded by tax payers. (If this isn't the case in Ontario, I wasn't aware.) Therfore, catholic schools should be in stride with whatever happens with public schools. If our provincial government were to decide that they needed to take measures similar to that of Ontario's (down the road), then it's expected that catholic schools eventually be treated equally/unbiasedly. The fact that catholic schools may not be affected would be simply unspeakable.

(Where I stated, "If this absurdity ends up extending throughout the nation, I'm going to enroll in a catholic school; assuming protesting wont change anything (which, long term, it probably won't)", I can see where there may have been confusion. From what I've seen, protesting may bring some change, but usually the government finds another way to rub you wrong. So in my opinion, long-term, protesting doesn't do too much. And if Catholic schools were to be unscathed, then it's only reasonable that I attend one for a better education, as they do have the same curriculum.)

It's sometimes difficult to be forthright and not give offense. I'm sorry for any mixed-messages. I also apologize for not having read up on the education system in Ontario. If the system is much different than ours, it would make my opinion false-- therefore invalid.

Though, I don't your respect your decision to shoot down my post in such a graceless manner. I also suggest that if you are to make a bold inquiry, do not assume (as I also did), or you end up sounding like kind of a boob. As I don't mind if anyone wants to counter my opinions. However, I do mind if they disregard my views completely.

[Shadowstar1922]

Most education systems are fairly similar. Especially Canada and the USA, since we're so close nations and in the general Western Civilizations. xD

But, either way, why are you mad about the Bill? All it wants to do is for people to focus on getting good grades to pass into college from High School, or graduate High School itself. There are so many people who can bs their way in by during extra-credit clubs and activities and do nothing at the activities, and still get the promised credits by doing jack sh_t.

This is Canada's way to, kind of enforce people striving for good grades to get into college, rather than relying on extra-credit activities.

And, Canada DID approach this matter kind of harshly and I somewhat disagree on how they tried to solve the problem, but it's still very effective.

[Mr_Valentine]

I told you exactly why I was upset about the Bill. Your ignorance has become uncanny.