Anonymous

[Shadowstar1922]

You use a reason as Anonymous intervening into the Syrian Civil War because the UN isn't doing their job, when you think it's okay for what the USA did in Iran.

Obviously you have no clue what actually did happen in Iran during the Cold War, so you should really look into that. I'll limit it down into steps.

1. USA wanted a strong Democratic ally in the Middle East during the Cold War, saw there was a large group in Iran wanting Democracy, decided to peacefully support them. Eventually Democracy won, the shift of power was a peaceful transactions and Iran became a Republic, or a Democracy how ever you wanna call it, same stuff. They had a President and everything.
2. Iran's President, Mohgassi was a strong Democratic leader with a lot of ideas on reforming Iran to make it more safe, civilized, bigger cities, etc. He needed money to do this, so he decided to cancel the Anglo-Iranian Oil Company letting Iran have access to majority of their own, but England wanted more oil and they got pissy.
3. The UK started propaganda on labeling Islams as terrorists, evil people who want Democracy to fall and were pro communist, especially labeling Iran as pro communist. This propaganda eventually reached the USA who, was sad that their Democracy "failed" when it actually didn't and decided to remove the Republic of Iran,
4. The USA hired terrorists in and outside of Iran who wanted the old Monarch back, the Shah. The Terrorists rocked the streets of Tehran(Iran's Capital) and other major populated cities, eventually putting the country into total Anarchy. With the people of Iran confused, and seeing that Democracy clearly did not work, they turned back to the Shah, who promised to bring peace to Iran. When the Shah took power, the USA immediately called back their hired terrorits. When the terrorists stopped, this showed to the people of Iran that Democracy did not work, for it was not there when it needed them.
5. The Monarchy of Iran was restored and the Shah(his name is Mohammad) came back to power. But, he soon abused his absolute power. People got frustrated at him and soon, in 1979 a rebellion rose where the Shah quickly lost power, and an Islamic Republic of Iran was set up, in hops to restore the old Republic. But, with them turning to religion as a sanctuary during their harsh times, sadly, the Government was extremely influenced in religion. Giving it, the ISLAMIC Republic of Iran.
6. With the Iranians, and some other Islams in the Middle East being angry at the USA and the UK for putting their country into such horrible suffering, they decided to get revenge, but no Islamic Government wanted any part in it, for fear their whole country would fall. So the people of the Middle East spreaded hate in their own lands, to South America and Asia and Europa against the USA and UK(more USA) Some of these people gathered together but soon disbanded. Though, out of all this spreading hate and organized, out came, Al Quida(sorry for incorrect spelling) which formed in little patches in the Middle East but all came to Afghanistan.
7. They soon organized together more better, and larger members and finally came up with the bombings of 91' in the USA which failed, but then successfully executed the September 11 2001 terrorist attack that completely devastated the USA's economy. A lot of people believe that the terrorist attack was a declaration of war, when it was indeed, and act of revenge. Giving the USA "a treatment of their own medicine".


So boom. Yes, this all DID happen. And, I'm not saying that Osama is in the witness protection program, that's stupid. I'm not brainwashed like you guys

And, with the Iraqi-American War of 2006, that was actually an illegal war, because the USA had to go through the UN to see if their justification was right or wrong. Though, the USA and the other countries already attacked Iraq. It was an illegal war in the beginning, but the UN eventually authorized it when they knew the USA wouldn't listen in pulling out XD

About the American Intervention of Guatemala, you should get mad at the UN because the USA was destroying peace in Guatemala when Guatemala did nothing wrong at all. Just leaving a Fruit Company that the USA was barely in, but sought to think that they should stick their nose into it. With the USA's wrong justifications for their horrible actions, the UN should've been to the USA, "Hey, maybe you shouldn't be doing that. They didn't really do anything wrong" But, the UN didn't. They didn't secure peace. They didn't do their job.

And, I highly doubt the South American continents were going to nuke us. They didn't even have the money, and the only country that ever really sided with anyone against the USA was Argentina during WWII who was allies with Germany. .-.
You honestly believing those countries developing nuclear weapons and nuking the USA is completely idiotic. The USA protects using the Monroe Doctrine, basically guaranteeing SA's countries' independence. They were all allies with the USA during that time, and they still are. They weren't going to turn their backs on us, even if they were capable of producing weapons their own economies couldn't support.


I'm sorry for going off topic, but, this is just for you to see why your reason in Anonymous intervening into the Syrian Civil War as, "The UN not doing their job" when they've freaked up before, so you should bring all these old accounts back up. You're just nose picking at stupid reasons to jump into everything. .-.

[ghost 9]

You use a reason as Anonymous intervening into the Syrian Civil War because the UN isn't doing their job, when you think it's okay for what the USA did in Iran.
They aren't, obviously...

Obviously you have no clue what actually did happen in Iran during the Cold War, so you should really look into that. I'll limit it down into steps.

1. USA wanted a strong Democratic ally in the Middle East during the Cold War, saw there was a large group in Iran wanting Democracy, decided to peacefully support them. Eventually Democracy won, the shift of power was a peaceful transactions and Iran became a Republic, or a Democracy how ever you wanna call it, same stuff. They had a President and everything.

That's why they trained Sudam Hussein's men in there and so on. Completely irrelevant to Anonymous...If you're referring to cyber warfare against Iran and trying to make a comparison, I can tell you now there's a difference. USA is a nation state. Their actions only further warrant Anonymous', because if they conduct themselves in such a manner, then it's obviously acceptable to the norm, as it currently is.

2. Iran's President, Mohgassi was a strong Democratic leader with a lot of ideas on reforming Iran to make it more safe, civilized, bigger cities, etc. He needed money to do this, so he decided to cancel the Anglo-Iranian Oil Company letting Iran have access to majority of their own, but England wanted more oil and they got pissy.
3. The UK started propaganda on labeling Islams as terrorists, evil people who want Democracy to fall and were pro communist, especially labeling Iran as pro communist. This propaganda eventually reached the USA who, was sad that their Democracy "failed" when it actually didn't and decided to remove the Republic of Iran,
4. The USA hired terrorists in and outside of Iran who wanted the old Monarch back, the Shah. The Terrorists rocked the streets of Tehran(Iran's Capital) and other major populated cities, eventually putting the country into total Anarchy. With the people of Iran confused, and seeing that Democracy clearly did not work, they turned back to the Shah, who promised to bring peace to Iran. When the Shah took power, the USA immediately called back their hired terrorits. When the terrorists stopped, this showed to the people of Iran that Democracy did not work, for it was not there when it needed them.
5. The Monarchy of Iran was restored and the Shah(his name is Mohammad) came back to power. But, he soon abused his absolute power. People got frustrated at him and soon, in 1979 a rebellion rose where the Shah quickly lost power, and an Islamic Republic of Iran was set up, in hops to restore the old Republic. But, with them turning to religion as a sanctuary during their harsh times, sadly, the Government was extremely influenced in religion. Giving it, the ISLAMIC Republic of Iran.
6. With the Iranians, and some other Islams in the Middle East being angry at the USA and the UK for putting their country into such horrible suffering, they decided to get revenge, but no Islamic Government wanted any part in it, for fear their whole country would fall. So the people of the Middle East spreaded hate in their own lands, to South America and Asia and Europa against the USA and UK(more USA) Some of these people gathered together but soon disbanded. Though, out of all this spreading hate and organized, out came, Al Quida(sorry for incorrect spelling) which formed in little patches in the Middle East but all came to Afghanistan.
7. They soon organized together more better, and larger members and finally came up with the bombings of 91' in the USA which failed, but then successfully executed the September 11 2001 terrorist attack that completely devastated the USA's economy. A lot of people believe that the terrorist attack was a declaration of war, when it was indeed, and act of revenge. Giving the USA "a treatment of their own medicine".


So boom. Yes, this all DID happen. And, I'm not saying that Osama is in the witness protection program, that's stupid. I'm not brainwashed like you guys

And, with the Iraqi-American War of 2006, that was actually an illegal war, because the USA had to go through the UN to see if their justification was right or wrong. Though, the USA and the other countries already attacked Iraq. It was an illegal war in the beginning, but the UN eventually authorized it when they knew the USA wouldn't listen in pulling out XD

About the American Intervention of Guatemala, you should get mad at the UN because the USA was destroying peace in Guatemala when Guatemala did nothing wrong at all. Just leaving a Fruit Company that the USA was barely in, but sought to think that they should stick their nose into it. With the USA's wrong justifications for their horrible actions, the UN should've been to the USA, "Hey, maybe you shouldn't be doing that. They didn't really do anything wrong" But, the UN didn't. They didn't secure peace. They didn't do their job.

And, I highly doubt the South American continents were going to nuke us. They didn't even have the money, and the only country that ever really sided with anyone against the USA was Argentina during WWII who was allies with Germany. .-.
You honestly believing those countries developing nuclear weapons and nuking the USA is completely idiotic. The USA protects using the Monroe Doctrine, basically guaranteeing SA's countries' independence. They were all allies with the USA during that time, and they still are. They weren't going to turn their backs on us, even if they were capable of producing weapons their own economies couldn't support.


I'm sorry for going off topic, but, this is just for you to see why your reason in Anonymous intervening into the Syrian Civil War as, "The UN not doing their job" when they've freaked up before, so you should bring all these old accounts back up. You're just nose picking at stupid reasons to jump into everything. .-.

So mass murdering is acceptable to you?

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[paladin]

Cite your #sources in #MLAStyle
And you're now saying all islamics are terrorists and it was a gov move for 9/11. Ever heard of Taliban and Al Queda? Yeah they did that. Not the entirety of Iran.

[GarthVader449]

I worry about some of you people...

If you are of voting age then you voted the Goverment in, to protect and serve your nation as a whole. Therefore, if they feel opposing a certain group of people is in the national intrest, then so be it. This would only be wrong, IF! They went against the will of the people.

Un-censored internet, is basically saying saying on the internet there shouldn't be any laws or rules. And in the U.K anything posted on the internet/text etc... that is offensive to anoyone is classed as Cyber-bullying; which you can be prosecuted for. Un-lawful sities(Childporn', Nazi view, etc...) shouldn't be allowed to express their opinions if they are offensive to other people! It's just wrong!

Although I dissagree with what the UN do sometimes, it is a democratic organisation. Needing every country to support intervention, before any action can be taken.

[ghost 9]

I worry about some of you people...

If you are of voting age then you voted the Goverment in, to protect and serve your nation as a whole. Therefore, if they feel opposing a certain group of people is in the national intrest, then so be it. This would only be wrong, IF! They went against the will of the people.

Un-censored internet, is basically saying saying on the internet there shouldn't be any laws or rules. And in the U.K anything posted on the internet/text etc... that is offensive to anoyone is classed as Cyber-bullying; which you can be prosecuted for. Un-lawful sities(Childporn', Nazi view, etc...) shouldn't be allowed to express their opinions if they are offensive to other people! It's just wrong!

Although I dissagree with what the UN do sometimes, it is a democratic organisation. Needing every country to support intervention, before any action can be taken.

Democrats and republicans both passed the NDAA, the Patriot Expansion Act, ordered drone strikes that killed Americans and children, and so on. We have an issue with the government as a whole at this point. And it's not only in America where we feel that said governments and organizations have not only failed us, but abused our civil liberties and attacked our very rights behind the people's backs.

[paladin]

Okay. Some of you seem to be incredibly misinformed about Anonymous in general.

Overview of Anonymous:
Anonymous consists largely of users from multiple imageboards and Internet forums. In addition, several wikis and Internet Relay Chat networks are maintained to overcome the limitations of traditional imageboards. These modes of communication are the means by which Anonymous protesters participating in Project Chanology communicate and organize upcoming protests.

A "loose coalition of Internet denizens," the group bands together through the Internet, using IRC channels and sites such as 4chan, 711chan, Encyclopædia Dramatica, and YouTube. Social networking services, such as Facebook, are used for to mobilize groups for real-world protests.
In its early form, the concept was adopted by a decentralized online community acting anonymously in a coordinated manner, usually toward a loosely self-agreed goal, and primarily focused on entertainment. Beginning with 2008, the Anonymous collective became increasingly associated with collaborative, international hacktivism. They undertook protests and other actions in retaliation against anti-digital piracy campaigns by motion picture and recording industry trade associations. Actions credited to "Anonymous" were undertaken by unidentified individuals who applied the Anonymous label to themselves as attribution. They have been called the freedom fighters of the Internet, a digital Robin Hood, and "anarchic cyber-guerrillas."

Organization:
Anonymous has no leader or controlling party and relies on the collective power of its individual participants acting in such a way that the net effect benefits the group. "Anyone who wants to can be Anonymous and work toward a set of goals..."
a member of Anonymous explained to the Baltimore City Paper.
"We have this agenda that we all agree on and we all coordinate and act, but all act independently toward it, without any want for recognition. We just want to get something that we feel is important done..."
Anonymous members have previously collaborated with hacker group LulzSec.'

[GarthVader449]

Democrats and republicans both passed the NDAA, the Patriot Expansion Act, ordered drone strikes that killed Americans and children, and so on. We have an issue with the government as a whole at this point. And it's not only in America where we feel that said governments and organizations have not only failed us, but abused our civil liberties and attacked our very rights behind the people's backs.

I tell you what I think is failing us; is damned human rights! The European union and court has gone way to far, in granting people who commit cimes, to have the same rights as normal citezens. That I don't agree with at all! Yes,we all have problems with the Goverment, but on the whole they do the right thing, sometimes they make mistakes... But I don't think they "abuse are civil liberities", and yes they do go behind peoples back. But normally fo a very good reason. And if you say they do these things, provide some examples; then I may be inclined to agree.

Yes I am about to verge of topic but hey, it's linked to this. One person had there child killed by someone. This person was arrested and kept in custody for 8 months intill the police gathered enough evidence to prosecute him. After he was sentenced to 30 years in prison he appealed to European Human rights court and got thousands, yes, thousands of pounds of compensation from all the stress he was put under for the 8 months, then he was re-sentenced to 5 years in prison. That is wrong!! And I can't stress that more!

[paladin]

Democrats and republicans both passed the NDAA, the Patriot Expansion Act, ordered drone strikes that killed Americans and children, and so on. We have an issue with the government as a whole at this point. And it's not only in America where we feel that said governments and organizations have not only failed us, but abused our civil liberties and attacked our very rights behind the people's backs.

I tell you what I think is failing us; is damned human rights! The European union and court has gone way to far, in granting people who commit cimes, to have the same rights as normal citezens. That I don't agree with at all! Yes,we all have problems with the Goverment, but on the whole they do the right thing, sometimes they make mistakes... But I don't think they "abuse are civil liberities", and yes they do go behind peoples back. But normally fo a very good reason. And if you say they do these things, provide some examples; then I may be inclined to agree.

Yes I am about to verge of topic but hey, it's linked to this. One person had there child killed by someone. This person was arrested and kept in custody for 8 months intill the police gathered enough evidence to prosecute him. After he was sentenced to 30 years in prison he appealed to European Human rights court and got thousands, yes, thousands of pounds of compensation from all the stress he was put under for the 8 months, then he was re-sentenced to 5 years in prison. That is wrong!! And I can't stress that more!

Actually, what failed us is Human Nature.
"So as long as there are men, there will be war" -- Albert Einstein

[ghost 9]

Democrats and republicans both passed the NDAA, the Patriot Expansion Act, ordered drone strikes that killed Americans and children, and so on. We have an issue with the government as a whole at this point. And it's not only in America where we feel that said governments and organizations have not only failed us, but abused our civil liberties and attacked our very rights behind the people's backs.

I tell you what I think is failing us; is damned human rights! The European union and court has gone way to far, in granting people who commit cimes, to have the same rights as normal citezens. That I don't agree with at all! Yes,we all have problems with the Goverment, but on the whole they do the right thing, sometimes they make mistakes... But I don't think they "abuse are civil liberities", and yes they do go behind peoples back. But normally fo a very good reason. And if you say they do these things, provide some examples; then I may be inclined to agree.

Yes I am about to verge of topic but hey, it's linked to this. One person had there child killed by someone. This person was arrested and kept in custody for 8 months intill the police gathered enough evidence to prosecute him. After he was sentenced to 30 years in prison he appealed to European Human rights court and got thousands, yes, thousands of pounds of compensation from all the stress he was put under for the 8 months, then he was re-sentenced to 5 years in prison. That is wrong!! And I can't stress that more!

. . .Read what the NDAA and Patriot Expansion Act is. Then read what the Computer Fraud and Abuse Act is. Research the drone strikes Obama's been permitting. Research everything the government's been doing, and then say they go behind our backs for our own good...

[mmm]

Democrats and republicans both passed the NDAA, the Patriot Expansion Act, ordered drone strikes that killed Americans and children, and so on. We have an issue with the government as a whole at this point. And it's not only in America where we feel that said governments and organizations have not only failed us, but abused our civil liberties and attacked our very rights behind the people's backs.

I tell you what I think is failing us; is damned human rights! The European union and court has gone way to far, in granting people who commit cimes, to have the same rights as normal citezens. That I don't agree with at all! Yes,we all have problems with the Goverment, but on the whole they do the right thing, sometimes they make mistakes... But I don't think they "abuse are civil liberities", and yes they do go behind peoples back. But normally fo a very good reason. And if you say they do these things, provide some examples; then I may be inclined to agree.

Yes I am about to verge of topic but hey, it's linked to this. One person had there child killed by someone. This person was arrested and kept in custody for 8 months intill the police gathered enough evidence to prosecute him. After he was sentenced to 30 years in prison he appealed to European Human rights court and got thousands, yes, thousands of pounds of compensation from all the stress he was put under for the 8 months, then he was re-sentenced to 5 years in prison. That is wrong!! And I can't stress that more!

. . .Read what the NDAA and Patriot Expansion Act is. Then read what the Computer Fraud and Abuse Act is. Research the drone strikes Obama's been permitting. Research everything the government's been doing, and then say they go behind our backs for our own good...

We have an outstanding education system. Health care system. Our infrastructure is fantastic. There are a lot more thing to be thankful for than to be upset about. Instead of complaining about the government as a whole, go about changing the specific issues you have problems with tried and true methods.

I liken this to your car not starting. Instead of dropping your trusty metal steed at the dump (anti-government activities), you check and change the battery, the spark plugs, etc. However, this example is a little off because the extent of the brokenness of the car is disputable.

If Anonymous collects money like I assume they do, they could hire lobbyists. Even without money, they could use their wide support to bring attention to issues they find they need to change. Of course, this isn't a positive example but the Westboro Church certainly gets a lot of attention. If Anonymous behaves itself, they may actually bring attention to the issues at hand rather than themselves as a group.