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If you live up to 2045. You will be immortal.

Posted: 16 Jun 2012, 18:53
by Shadow00
Copied from "Time" magazine. Heres the story

On Feb. 15, 1965, a diffident but self-possessed high school student named Raymond Kurzweil appeared as a guest on a game show called I've Got a Secret. He was introduced by the host, Steve Allen, then he played a short musical composition on a piano. The idea was that Kurzweil was hiding an unusual fact and the panelists — they included a comedian and a former Miss America — had to guess what it was.
On the show, the beauty queen did a good job of grilling Kurzweil, but the comedian got the win: the music was composed by a computer. Kurzweil got $200.


Kurzweil then demonstrated the computer, which he built himself — a desk-size affair with loudly clacking relays, hooked up to a typewriter. The panelists were pretty blasé about it; they were more impressed by Kurzweil's age than by anything he'd actually done. They were ready to move on to Mrs. Chester Loney of Rough and Ready, Calif., whose secret was that she'd been President Lyndon Johnson's first-grade teacher.
But Kurzweil would spend much of the rest of his career working out what his demonstration meant. Creating a work of art is one of those activities we reserve for humans and humans only. It's an act of self-expression; you're not supposed to be able to do it if you don't have a self. To see creativity, the exclusive domain of humans, usurped by a computer built by a 17-year-old is to watch a line blur that cannot be unblurred, the line between organic intelligence and artificial intelligence.
That was Kurzweil's real secret, and back in 1965 nobody guessed it. Maybe not even him, not yet. But now, 46 years later, Kurzweil believes that we're approaching a moment when computers will become intelligent, and not just intelligent but more intelligent than humans. When that happens, humanity — our bodies, our minds, our civilization — will be completely and irreversibly transformed. He believes that this moment is not only inevitable but imminent. According to his calculations, the end of human civilization as we know it is about 35 years away.

Computers are getting faster. Everybody knows that. Also, computers are getting faster faster — that is, the rate at which they're getting faster is increasing.
True? True.
So if computers are getting so much faster, so incredibly fast, there might conceivably come a moment when they are capable of something comparable to human intelligence. Artificial intelligence. All that horsepower could be put in the service of emulating whatever it is our brains are doing when they create consciousness — not just doing arithmetic very quickly or composing piano music but also driving cars, writing books, making ethical decisions, appreciating fancy paintings, making witty observations at cocktail parties.
If you can swallow that idea, and Kurzweil and a lot of other very smart people can, then all bets are off. From that point on, there's no reason to think computers would stop getting more powerful. They would keep on developing until they were far more intelligent than we are. Their rate of development would also continue to increase, because they would take over their own development from their slower-thinking human creators. Imagine a computer scientist that was itself a super-intelligent computer. It would work incredibly quickly. It could draw on huge amounts of data effortlessly. It wouldn't even take breaks to play Farmville.

Probably. It's impossible to predict the behavior of these smarter-than-human intelligences with which (with whom?) we might one day share the planet, because if you could, you'd be as smart as they would be. But there are a lot of theories about it. Maybe we'll merge with them to become super-intelligent cyborgs, using computers to extend our intellectual abilities the same way that cars and planes extend our physical abilities. Maybe the artificial intelligences will help us treat the effects of old age and prolong our life spans indefinitely. Maybe we'll scan our consciousnesses into computers and live inside them as software, forever, virtually. Maybe the computers will turn on humanity and annihilate us. The one thing all these theories have in common is the transformation of our species into something that is no longer recognizable as such to humanity circa 2011. This transformation has a name: the Singularity.
The difficult thing to keep sight of when you're talking about the Singularity is that even though it sounds like science fiction, it isn't, no more than a weather forecast is science fiction. It's not a fringe idea; it's a serious hypothesis about the future of life on Earth. There's an intellectual gag reflex that kicks in anytime you try to swallow an idea that involves super-intelligent immortal cyborgs, but suppress it if you can, because while the Singularity appears to be, on the face of it, preposterous, it's an idea that rewards sober, careful evaluation.

In other words, by 2045, we will be able to transfer human brains to cuborgs, and live eternally.
That simple :)
And that's science peeps ;)

Re: If you live up to 2045. You will be immortal.

Posted: 16 Jun 2012, 19:38
by Toady
I read the first couple paragraphs and then I skipped to the bottom and realized that I spent my time reading something scientific when I could have read something meant for 5 year olds in 2 seconds...

Re: If you live up to 2045. You will be immortal.

Posted: 16 Jun 2012, 22:33
by Shadowstar1922
Very interesting Shadow.

Re: If you live up to 2045. You will be immortal.

Posted: 17 Jun 2012, 20:43
by Lamb
...(Get your weapons ready for war)
Reason-
We as humans have Taking lands over other species because we consider ourselves superior...because we are smarter and intellegent...

If computers became smarter wouldnt they do the same?

Re: If you live up to 2045. You will be immortal.

Posted: 17 Jun 2012, 21:31
by Leprechaun Lukia
I can't imagine the years going into 2020 etc.It'd just be weird

Re: If you live up to 2045. You will be immortal.

Posted: 17 Jun 2012, 22:24
by Gyro_Plasma
we'll never be the most serperior

Re: If you live up to 2045. You will be immortal.

Posted: 19 Jun 2012, 03:06
by RealRoi
YA they used to say similar things way back in the 40's but hey, we're still alive.
Computers can't make their own decisions. There is an absence of something called as emotion. Maybe the guy who wrote this down has seen I robot or something.
Besides, the ability to the computers was given by the humans themselves so we'll be one step ahead of them.

Re: If you live up to 2045. You will be immortal.

Posted: 19 Jun 2012, 18:34
by Shadow00
@Roi
The guy that wrote that, is a scientist and one of the most important for todays science.

And i didnt say robots will get their free will.
Its like frankenstein. You have a shell, to which you give the brain.
Or as in an example:
Imagine Einsteins brain in a robot (Einsteins brain controlling it) which can work without stopping to rest, simply because there is no need.
Also, man could travel in space that way with lifespan not playing any role.
And finally, technology would progress ULTRA fast.
So we could pretty much fix all our problems.

Re: If you live up to 2045. You will be immortal.

Posted: 20 Jun 2012, 03:56
by RealRoi
@Shadow, ya even if he's a scientist, let's not forget that there are many many more scientists. And I read through that note again, it said that we could transfer brains to computers like cyborgs.
Brain has two quotients, intelligence and emotions. you can only transfer intelligence. Emotions differ from one person to another. You can't force it or make it a logical sequence.

Yes I do agree that technology will help our lives to do things faster and help us in computing and research. But looking at the topic heading, I disagree stating that we can't have a robots taking over the world and secondly, we humans are mortals, we can't achieve immortality, that's a natural fact.

Re: If you live up to 2045. You will be immortal.

Posted: 21 Jun 2012, 23:48
by Shadow00
Our bodies are mortal, it is our spirit that remains alive.
And im pretty sure we'll find out sooner or later :)