Non-Binary genders

[Tycoon]

I'd just like to share this small piece of information

your gender is what you identify as.
your sex is what you were born as.

so, there are more than two genders - and you need to use the chosen pronouns by that person if they wish for them to be used

also, intersexuals are people who have genitals that are not matching, so maybe they have part male genitals and part female..

i think that's right. I'm new to this myself but it irks me when people say "both genders" and mean both sexes, and it has done for a while..

[Tycoon]

“Intersex” is a general term used for a variety of conditions in which a person is born with a reproductive or sexual anatomy that doesn’t seem to fit the typical definitions of female or male. For example, a person might be born appearing to be female on the outside, but having mostly male-typical anatomy on the inside. Or a person may be born with genitals that seem to be in-between the usual male and female types. Or a person may be born with mosaic genetics, so that some of her cells have XX chromosomes and some of them have XY.


this makes my own definition seem awful...which it is. but this is the real, proper definition.

[Tycoon]

On what basis are you claiming there's more than two genders?

on the basis that there are the genders male, and female - and then there is bi-gender, pangender, and the entire spectrum of genderqueer which is recognised in many placed for example bathrooms being installed labelled E instead of M or F, or forms with the question: "What is your gender?" and having more than just the two options of male and female

[The Divine Potato]

I only thought that there was three genders. Either you have lady parts, man parts, or neither.

[Shadowstar1922]

I only thought that there was three genders. Either you have lady parts, man parts, or neither.

That is your biological sex and not your gender.

And, all that pangender stuff can easily be categorized into gender-neutral which is kind of the third gender? And gender fluid. The names are kind of self-explanatory.

[The Divine Potato]

So by this you mean.... Your psychological gender?

[Shadowstar1922]

But Gender is more specifically about cognitive functions and characteristics that are categorised into a schema of two genders. I'd understand if you meant that an individual may identify characteristics that are equally from both genders, in which the correct term is androgynous-but other than that, it just doesn't make sense. Seeing as it's a matter of choice anyway, I'd imagine an androgynous person may just choose their gender. According to personality tests, I'm classified as androgynous yet I happily identify as a female, so.

Also, there's compelling research that suggests that biological sex is strongly related to gender identification, most famous of this research is the case study of David Reimer, who had an accident where his male genitalia was burnt off. A doctor called Doctor Money attempted to change David's gender to female yet David rejected this his whole life despite being treated as a girl and having hormone therapy.

Because David was born psychologically as a boy, so no matter how many hormones you pump into him and no matter how much you treat him like a girl, he will still be a boy because he feels like a boy.

Same how some people are born a girl, but they feel like a boy so their psychological or social gender is male. And then eventually they'll get surgery.

And I really don't think you need to do a research to find out that most people identify with their biological gender.

Gender isn't a choice majorly. You grow up and your brain identifies by the time you're 3-6, mainly because you observe that everyone around you categorizes certain qualities, toys, and games as girly or boyish.

[Shadowstar1922]

But Gender is more specifically about cognitive functions and characteristics that are categorised into a schema of two genders. I'd understand if you meant that an individual may identify characteristics that are equally from both genders, in which the correct term is androgynous-but other than that, it just doesn't make sense. Seeing as it's a matter of choice anyway, I'd imagine an androgynous person may just choose their gender. According to personality tests, I'm classified as androgynous yet I happily identify as a female, so.

Also, there's compelling research that suggests that biological sex is strongly related to gender identification, most famous of this research is the case study of David Reimer, who had an accident where his male genitalia was burnt off. A doctor called Doctor Money attempted to change David's gender to female yet David rejected this his whole life despite being treated as a girl and having hormone therapy.

Because David was born psychologically as a boy, so no matter how many hormones you pump into him and no matter how much you treat him like a girl, he will still be a boy because he feels like a boy.

Same how some people are born a girl, but they feel like a boy so their psychological or social gender is male. And then eventually they'll get surgery.

And I really don't think you need to do a research to find out that most people identify with their biological gender.

Gender isn't a choice majorly. You grow up and your brain identifies by the time you're 3-6, mainly because you observe that everyone around you categorizes certain qualities, toys, and games as girly or boyish.

The research was a case study that aimed to, well to Dr Money, prove that nurture won over nature in terms of gender identification but it turned out to be the opposite. You can't be born psychologically as a specific gender-psychology is about experiences and acquisition. Unless you're referring to biological characteristics that can in turn heavily influence, but not always, the psychology of a person. Your two middle points contradict each other.

And no, that's just the Gender Schema theory which relies on sociological schemas of male and female as a gender-so it's a matter of nurture and sociological ideas of gender characterisation can vary from culture to culture. However, this theory would suggest that gender schemes would be consistent throughout an individuals life yet many people change their ideas of say, whether a game is only suitable for girls or boys when they are older.

Aaaah, I got a different message from your earlier comment, my bad. I agree with what you say.

[Shadow00]

OK from now on you will refer to me as THE gender, as my gender is the superior one cause I feel it is.

Makes any sense to you?
Not here either.
I'm siding with Alice on this one.

Now if what you are talking about are preferences then yeah, there is more than one.
There's male, female, both, animals, objects etc etc.
Refer to that next time.