IS - Western Intervention

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Do you support Western Intervention to help deafeat IS, if so what type?

None at all
3
30%
Yes, diplomatic resolutions only
1
10%
Yes, Air-Strikes
2
20%
Yes, Air Strikes and ground operations
4
40%
 
Total votes: 10

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Re: IS - Western Intervention

Postby Shadowstar1922 » 03 Mar 2015, 01:28

Hatty wrote:
Shadowstar1922 wrote:I don't recall ever denying the existence of ISIS, or the fact that it is a problem, hence me stating I think regional powers should storm in.

And yes, lets continue to air strike! Who cares if it doesn't work at all? Who cares if drones have a 2% success rate at killing people who we want? Who cares if we bomb more schools, nurseries, marketplaces, and homes of innocent people than actually hitting the targets we planned to! Ah yes!

And a ground invasion works all the time, yes!!!

I say it is not our problem because it is not. Iraq is not our problem, Iraq is Iraq's problem. Their civil war is the problem of neighboring countries because instability spreads easily. How is instability going to spread to America??

The only thing I would support for America doing is sending massive humanitarian aid, reconstruction, and food and other resources to win the locals back. It'll show them, "wow, these ISIS guys burned half my village down, stole our money and food, raped out women, forced our men into conscription, all in the name of God! But wait?? Omg the Americans!!! They're giving us all this food, this water, they're rebuilding my homes! Neato! They're much better than ISIS!!!!"

This works much better than air strikes, because the way to beat ISIS is to bomb civilians, you know? We air strike, people hate us, we occupy them, burn their entire country to the ground, and years later they develop into terrorist organizations to fight us and see the end of us because the only version of America they see is our bombs falling on their mother or father or brother or son or whatever. Its time to end that.

What you're fighting for is a simple rinse and repeat. Oppress and exploit, bomb the civilians, 3-6 years later they organize against us, oppress and exploit, bomb the civilians, etc.

I mean come on, is there really an example of American intervention where the invaded is safe and good now? Where they prosper and are efficient? No.

I'm not going to support a movement that is going to send fellow Americans to their death, nor a movement that gives the world even more justification to hate my country.


Shadowstar1922 wrote: ISIS is not our problem. Let Kurdistan and Jordan take them out.


okay so the first quote basically states how ISIS is not America's problem and that regional powers should intervene, and the second quote basically states how ISIS is not America's problem and that regional powers should intervene.
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Re: IS - Western Intervention

Postby Shadow00 » 03 Mar 2015, 02:21

Indeed a governments purpose is to protect and serve its people.
Sadly though, there is not only one country in the world.
Sadly squared, what we have right now is just good old Murica acting all shocked because FINALLY the war they began on middle east OH SO LONG AGO is actually having what you call CONSEQUENCES.
yes I believe Isis is SOLELY something the US created. You CANT POSSIBLY be thinking that while BEFORE good old Murica brought dictatorships to rule middle east to their benefit and legit brought those countries DECADES back technology and culture wise, that things like this wouldn't happen?

Yeah ISIS is a US problem. Its a problem the US created, and a problem the US must learn to deal with.
Yeah US citizens will die, Boohoo. Either finish what you started or let it happen.


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