Russian plane 'disintegrated' in air before crashing in Egypt's Sinai

[Dr Frook]

hmmm looks like another terrorist attack... this time to punish russia for bombing the IS peeps in Syria. Sad situation that will not be resolved until people stop fighting over ancient religious ideals.

[Shadowstar1922]

Russia has been effectively bombing and driving ISIS out of Syria. NATO doesn't want them doing that bc they're allies with ISIS

america created ISIS

[Foopzheart]

Russia has been effectively bombing and driving ISIS out of Syria. NATO doesn't want them doing that bc they're allies with ISIS

america created ISIS

http://www.nato.int/cps/en/natolive/nato_countries.htm
mind showing me ISIS on this list?

also, i thought america aided in the creation of Al Qaeda, not ISIS.

[Shadowstar1922]

Russia has been effectively bombing and driving ISIS out of Syria. NATO doesn't want them doing that bc they're allies with ISIS

america created ISIS

http://www.nato.int/cps/en/natolive/nato_countries.htm
mind showing me ISIS on this list?

also, i thought america aided in the creation of Al Qaeda, not ISIS.

lmao, isn't it obvious? (btw why would you go to a government source to see if the government is supporting terrorists, literally no one in NATO or anyone for that matter would publically come out and say they're arming and supporting terrorists)

America has been air striking Syria and Iraq for ISIS for the last year and instead of actually hitting them, America has bombed hospitals, schools, nurseries, apartment complexes, market places, WEDDINGS! but rarely ever landed a hit on ISIS? how?

Russia, a real enemy of ISIS, has been air striking ISIS for 2 weeks and has managed to destroy 30-60% of ISIS infrastructure in Syria (percentage ranges from different reports)

Also a lot of local Middle Eastern news agencies, as well as big ones like AJ and Vice have reported American weaponry being dropped off and "accidentally falling in the arms of ISIS" bc the "wind took them" meanwhile other nations have air dropped supplies and weapons into the middle east in the past decade and it only seems America has messed up? what?

Here's sources explaining how ISIS was created, armed, and fueled by America.

http://www.motherjones.com/politics/201 ... yria-assad
http://www.thefiscaltimes.com/2015/06/0 ... Armed-ISIS
http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfre ... syria-iraq
https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2014/1 ... s-o06.html
http://www.globalresearch.ca/new-york-t ... is/5409160

[Dr Frook]

The British government has said that the Russian plane that crashed in Egypt this week after taking off from the resort of Sharm al-Sheikh might have been brought down by an explosive device.

"While the investigation is still ongoing we cannot say categorically why the Russian jet crashed," prime minister David Cameron's office said in a statement.

"But as more information has come to light we have become concerned that the plane may well have been brought down by an explosive device."

As a precautionary measure, the government has decided that flights due to leave Sharm for Britain will be delayed to allow time for a team of UK aviation experts, currently travelling to Sharm, to make an assessment of the security arrangements in place at the airport.

Meanwhile, Egyptian investigators have said that the black box recovered from the plane is partially damaged.

Investigators extracted and validated the contents of the flight data recorder (FDR), one of the components of the black box recovered from the Russian airplane that crashed in Egypt, Egypt's Civil Aviation Ministry said.

But the second component which contains the cockpit voice recorder (CVR) was partially damaged and much work would be required to extract the data from it, the ministry said.

The two components — FDR and the CVR, which make up the black box — are both required to give an accurate record of an aircraft's flight history.

"Consequently no further comment on the CVR can be made. Examination of parts on site is continuing," said the ministry's statement.

An Egyptian source close to the black box investigation however said that all signs so far are pointing towards an explosion of some sort.

"It is believed to be an explosion, but what kind is not clear," the source said. "There is an examination of the sand at the crash site to try and determine if it was a bomb."

[Rainshard]

To my memory, the US funded rebel forces against Assad in Syria. This unfortunately included ISIS. It was not however created by the US directly, they formed after they US invasion of Iraq.

Same thing happened with the Mujahdeen when the Soviets invaded Afghanistan. The Mujhadeen then developed into Al Qaeda.

With the plane, this is turning into a mess. The Egyptian government are denying that it was a bomb (likely to keep their tourism industry safe) and Putin is saying the same (refusing allegations that it was his choice to bomb Syria). 29 flights were meant to safely bring back British tourists but only 8 planes brought people back. The Egyptian government grounded the others.

For once, I kinda respect David Cameron for releasing information that this may have been ISIS, rather than trying to cover it up.

Security was allegedly poor at the Airport where the plane took off too (people could pay to skip security checks), and "UK spies" have found supposed evidence that an employee at the airport smuggled a bomb onto the plane.

Either way, this is getting confusing and convoluted. ISIS have claimed it was them, but refuse to release the details of what they did (suggesting that they are bluffing to spread terror).

The worst part though? If it is ISIS, they now know they can get away with things like this. They may try again.


Evidence that the explosion happened inside the plane.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/russia/11978962/Russian-plane-crash-sharm-el-sheikh-stranded-British-tourists-latest-updates.html

[Shadowstar1922]

i really hope american media doesn't take this as an ISIS attack bc our government media always goes with whoever claims first and then runs the entire story like that, and then never returns to it, despite new evidence coming up.

they just want someone to blame.

literally anyone could claim responsibility to any attack and that person would be blamed by american media. it's ridiculous.