GarthVader449 wrote:Syria is not another Iraq, so stop comparing it to it. Chemical weapons have been used, that is fact. What is nearly fact but not (yet), is who used them. So going by the UN charter, they are conducting a war crime, which should be stopped. But, not intill we have gone through the main organisation to stop this, the UN. If Russia nd China continue to veto, thats when I beleive France, US, UK etc... should take their own action. And declare war on the Govt. Which also by the way, would be completely legal.
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Syria and Iraq are kind of similar, Garth.
Why? Because both issues involved chemical weapons.
As those of you who know your middle east history correctly, you would know that Iraq waged a 8-9 year illegal war against Iran to acquire Iran's rich oil region called Khuzistan during 1979-1988, using chemical weapons that the United States helped the country create by selling them arms, technology, and using satellite spying to warn Iraq of certain Iranian military movements. We helped Iraq chemically bomb Iran to stall the war and extending it. The Iraq-Iranian war was the 2nd most deadliest conflict in history(1st being the Congolese Wars in Africa) the USA let Iraq use chemical weapons because, as one of the US politicians said, "An Iranian victory of unacceptable". And here we are, being the hypocrites we are, hating on Syria for using chemical weapons
After that, Iraq continued to support terrorism and test more chemical weapons on their own people and expanding their military presence in the Middle East until they became more independent by not checking in with the US when invading Kuwait and some other small things. US panicked, and literally dropped all relations with them and turned away from Iraq, to later invade the country and kill 600,000 people and displace millions and millions.
Right now, the Syrian Regime might have used chemical weapons against their own people. There's evidence to say Assad and his allies did so, and there's evidence to say Al Quada raided a military base to use the chemical weapons. Who knows?
What I think we should do, and Obama has said this, is to get representatives from The Syrian Regime/Assad, and Al Quada, meet in Geneva, and make a compromise. Both sides are practically the same right right now, but Assad wants to create a Secular/Atheist state, and Al Quada wants an oppressive theocratic state much like Iran. It's crazy. The once democratic SLA has been overun with Al Quada jihadists from neighboring countries to get a stand hold in Syria.
Now, the very very VVEEEERRRYY complicated things will be listed below.
If Syria did infact, use chemical weapons, they might possibly cry out the "Right of Sovereignty" act/whatever ya wanna call it and claim that Syria's sovreignty was on the verge of being destroyed(at the times, the rebels were winning) and the country had to use some chemical bombs to turn the tides. Every member in the UN is given the Right of Sovereignty and has the right to use any weapons to protect that
only when the sovereignty is about to be destroyed .
The bad part for Syria is, they continously used the chemical weapons when they began to win the war back.
Now, if you think this is absurd, or retarded, compare it with your home country. I will use America.
If Canada and/or Mexico sent Air strikes, missiles, artillery strikes, and ground invasions, one of the 4, or a combination, wouldn't you agree that the US has the right to defend itself by making the appropriate measures to counter? And if Mexico and/or Canada was winning on the point where the capital was at risk and the US Government's Right of Sovereignty was about to be destroyed, wouldn't you think it's okay if the US Government fired a nuclear weapon to win the war? Replace the USA with your country if you're not in the USA
Now replace Canada/Mexico with the Syrian Liberation Army/Al Quada, and America with the Syrian Government.
On a horrible technicality, Syria had the right to use the weapons, just not more than once. They over did it.
A I've stated before, representatives from both sides should meet in Geneva and make a compromise. If Assad wants to stay in power, he better give up some of it to his people. But, the opposition must realize that modern-day Syria was created by Secular policies and the Government will not go religious, just like Turkey. Aaaand, I think a coalition force between military powers of the Arab League should organize this and work this out and just come together and do something non-violently.
If the Rebels win, they'll kill more people and cause more deaths than Assad would at the cost of their imaginary "freedom" Iran and China granted their people. If Assad wins, those people will never get freedom.
MAKE A COMPROMISE!
For trying.
