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Re: Republicans Against Peace?

Postby Shadowstar1922 » 05 Jan 2014, 19:40

Shadow00 wrote:Sorry, I just found out all democrats on the whole world were summoned to earth by Satan. ALL OF EM.
I don't affiliate myself with the Democratic Party. I've criticized the Democratic Party in the past, both in conversations with friends and on here, especially Obama.
Seriously, I know extremely good people whose political views are so over the top it would make shadowstar want to suicide. And that's no overstatement.
If radical Republicans don't bring me on the verge of suicide, I'm sure you could not find someone as extreme to make me do such things.

That though doesn't change the fact that they are good guys.
Same with republicans, democrats whatever. Even if we believe that "Republicans are against peace", or Democrats are against America, or that Jews plan to take over the world ( :roll: ) then still that's your opinion of things, and its totally made up from your experiences. Anyone else watching that video would have different conclusions from it and form their own opinion over republicans.
The video showed numerous Republican leaders from the Republican Party saying ignorant things speaking against diplomacy and pushing for war on an issue that we cannot afford to have a war over. If the Democratic Party did that and the Republican Party got the peace deal accomplished, I would support the Republican Party, or rather the deed they did for that specific issue. In my eyes, if someone does someting good, they deserve credit, if they don't, they should be criticized.
So yeah,apparently your view is that republicans are against peace.
On this specific issue, yes.
My view is that republicans want the whole pie.
In some other issues, yes.
Some extremist's view is that republicans are too soft on the government.
I'm pretty sure that all of our views are forced, therefore let's not attempt to sound objective,Kay?
No one is forcing any of their views on the other here. I, and others, state their opinion in a topic you voluntarily click on, and voluntarily read, and voluntarily reply to. I'm not pushing it in your face, I'm just posting the topic or issue in here, stating my opinion and indirectly asking others to give their opinions to which I can reply to and we can have a discussion. I don't mind that you state yours, in whatever fashion you present it, it's fine by me.

EDIT: and please, more variety of channels, before I start sending stuff ONLY from fox news here and drive y'all nuts :D
I'm pretty sure I've posted SourceFed before, and the only reason why I post the Young Turks is that they are not biased, they are moderates. They're critized both parties, don't affiliate with any major party and just push for equality and freedom in the civil world and economy(their liberal side) while believing there needs to be regulations, like health care(conservative side). They base their views and ideas on the reality and logic, what works, and what doesn't, and purposely avoid the ideological labeling and grouping when it comes to them reporting their views. And, if you'd like to post Fox News, go ahead. No one is stopping you.
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Re: Republicans Against Peace?

Postby Shadow00 » 05 Jan 2014, 21:22

Shadowstar1922 wrote:
Shadow00 wrote:Sorry, I just found out all democrats on the whole world were summoned to earth by Satan. ALL OF EM.
I don't affiliate myself with the Democratic Party. I've criticized the Democratic Party in the past, both in conversations with friends and on here, especially Obama.
Seriously, I know extremely good people whose political views are so over the top it would make shadowstar want to suicide. And that's no overstatement.
If radical Republicans don't bring me on the verge of suicide, I'm sure you could not find someone as extreme to make me do such things.

That though doesn't change the fact that they are good guys.
Same with republicans, democrats whatever. Even if we believe that "Republicans are against peace", or Democrats are against America, or that Jews plan to take over the world ( :roll: ) then still that's your opinion of things, and its totally made up from your experiences. Anyone else watching that video would have different conclusions from it and form their own opinion over republicans.
The video showed numerous Republican leaders from the Republican Party saying ignorant things speaking against diplomacy and pushing for war on an issue that we cannot afford to have a war over. If the Democratic Party did that and the Republican Party got the peace deal accomplished, I would support the Republican Party, or rather the deed they did for that specific issue. In my eyes, if someone does someting good, they deserve credit, if they don't, they should be criticized.
So yeah,apparently your view is that republicans are against peace.
On this specific issue, yes.
My view is that republicans want the whole pie.
In some other issues, yes.
Some extremist's view is that republicans are too soft on the government.
I'm pretty sure that all of our views are forced, therefore let's not attempt to sound objective,Kay?
No one is forcing any of their views on the other here. I, and others, state their opinion in a topic you voluntarily click on, and voluntarily read, and voluntarily reply to. I'm not pushing it in your face, I'm just posting the topic or issue in here, stating my opinion and indirectly asking others to give their opinions to which I can reply to and we can have a discussion. I don't mind that you state yours, in whatever fashion you present it, it's fine by me.

EDIT: and please, more variety of channels, before I start sending stuff ONLY from fox news here and drive y'all nuts :D
I'm pretty sure I've posted SourceFed before, and the only reason why I post the Young Turks is that they are not biased, they are moderates. They're critized both parties, don't affiliate with any major party and just push for equality and freedom in the civil world and economy(their liberal side) while believing there needs to be regulations, like health care(conservative side). They base their views and ideas on the reality and logic, what works, and what doesn't, and purposely avoid the ideological labeling and grouping when it comes to them reporting their views. And, if you'd like to post Fox News, go ahead. No one is stopping you.

The point though is, war and peace are matters you simply can't have a simple opinion on.
For example, if a war is caused so as to stop a larger war, its fine by me.
Not ethical? Possibly. But if its the only option then why not. That's what I'm trying to say among other mockings and sarcastic views. That its NOT a matter of it being the republicans against peace. We CANT and SHOULDNT be absolute about politics for at least another 40 years. You have no idea what might be happening at the moment and what this peace deal might or might not cause. Its simply too delicate a matter. After all, peace isn't always the best solution.
Imagine for example, if the US had cut a peace deal with the Nazis on WW2, how would the world be today?
I'm pretty sure many Americans would like peace at that time too, and if I'm correct the US president even changed on that period. So bottom line, my whole disagreement is, you don't know if what those republicans think or say is "bad", at least not for another 40 years or so.

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Re: Republicans Against Peace?

Postby Shadowstar1922 » 05 Jan 2014, 21:31

You do have good points though, and I do admit having an absolute view on issues like this is a bit wrong, but I'm just expressing my positive views that we've finally been able to use diplomacy and communicate with a middle eastern country and work out an economic and political deal.

My view is that when things like this happen, use the evidence you have and formulate your opinion and be open to new evidence and news and upon that new evidence and news coming out, you then reformulate your opinion, wether it stays the same, drives you to flip to the other side, drives you to further stay with your original side, or even create a new side overall, that is what you should do. Why, the people's opinion and the media do have an affect and a small say in how these things work and as you put it, waiting 40 years and then formulate and debate about issues like this, does not work. What if the operation or peace deal or war was a bad one and we had the evidence back then to act on and potentially stop it, but we couldn't yet because we had to wait be sure.
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