The Discrimination Against Women.

[Shadow00]

i've been waiting for almost 3 months for kingsley, and possibly others?? to debunk these like he said he would, but. it doesn't look like that is happening and I'm kind of laughing.

I just don't really care about arguing about why feminism sucks all over again. I've got like 500 posts about it so far up, search them and read

[GarthVader449]

Well your discrimination in the armed forces is not discrimination; it is 'believed' by a small minority to be discrimination. I can not speak entirely for America, but I can speak about the UK.
I pitch to you, why women would want to fight right on the front line. They were prevented from fighting there for a very good reason! Not because they can't do the job, men would be better (Hell they do nearly the same fitness tests); it's because of the kind of atrocities that could occur against them if captured. That is why they were prevented from fighting right on the front line.
Now, I know in the UK this has changed, women who wish to fight right on the front line can apply for roles - translator, liaison officer etc... - on the front line now. If they meet all the requirements and guidelines they will be allowed onto the front line.
The only kind of discrimination that remains is that no women can be posted to front line duty; without them requesting it obviously. Yup... that's discrimination.

Gender discrimination is scarce in the western world, society has changed and evolved around equality. It will only get stronger.

[Shadowstar1922]

Well your discrimination in the armed forces is not discrimination; it is 'believed' by a small minority to be discrimination. I can not speak entirely for America, but I can speak about the UK.
I pitch to you, why women would want to fight right on the front line. They were prevented from fighting there for a very good reason! Not because they can't do the job, men would be better (Hell they do nearly the same fitness tests); it's because of the kind of atrocities that could occur against them if captured. That is why they were prevented from fighting right on the front line.
Now, I know in the UK this has changed, women who wish to fight right on the front line can apply for roles - translator, liaison officer etc... - on the front line now. If they meet all the requirements and guidelines they will be allowed onto the front line.
The only kind of discrimination that remains is that no women can be posted to front line duty; without them requesting it obviously. Yup... that's discrimination.

Gender discrimination is scarce in the western world, society has changed and evolved around equality. It will only get stronger.

Lets not put men on the front line either. I mean, imagine the atrocities that could happen to them if they were captured. Torture, forced labor, rape, and possibly brainwashing! Not to mention they could die in combat. We wouldn't want that happening to them, now, would we?

So, sounds like a plan! Lets pull back the men from the front lines,since they're in sooo much danger.

[The Divine Potato]

And this is why robots are needed to do labor, because naebody is willing to do it for the pay employers give to their peers or they ain't willing to take any of the risks accompanying the job.

[Foopzheart]

Well your discrimination in the armed forces is not discrimination; it is 'believed' by a small minority to be discrimination. I can not speak entirely for America, but I can speak about the UK.
I pitch to you, why women would want to fight right on the front line. They were prevented from fighting there for a very good reason! Not because they can't do the job, men would be better (Hell they do nearly the same fitness tests); it's because of the kind of atrocities that could occur against them if captured. That is why they were prevented from fighting right on the front line.
Now, I know in the UK this has changed, women who wish to fight right on the front line can apply for roles - translator, liaison officer etc... - on the front line now. If they meet all the requirements and guidelines they will be allowed onto the front line.
The only kind of discrimination that remains is that no women can be posted to front line duty; without them requesting it obviously. Yup... that's discrimination.

Gender discrimination is scarce in the western world, society has changed and evolved around equality. It will only get stronger.

Lets not put men on the front line either. I mean, imagine the atrocities that could happen to them if they were captured. Torture, forced labor, rape, and possibly brainwashing! Not to mention they could die in combat. We wouldn't want that happening to them, now, would we?

So, sounds like a plan! Lets pull back the men from the front lines,since they're in sooo much danger.

Did you not read the whole post? Women can fight on the front line now, it's changed. Wow, look at that. People are being treated with respect, and yet people still argue it.

[Shadowstar1922]

Well your discrimination in the armed forces is not discrimination; it is 'believed' by a small minority to be discrimination. I can not speak entirely for America, but I can speak about the UK.
I pitch to you, why women would want to fight right on the front line. They were prevented from fighting there for a very good reason! Not because they can't do the job, men would be better (Hell they do nearly the same fitness tests); it's because of the kind of atrocities that could occur against them if captured. That is why they were prevented from fighting right on the front line.
Now, I know in the UK this has changed, women who wish to fight right on the front line can apply for roles - translator, liaison officer etc... - on the front line now. If they meet all the requirements and guidelines they will be allowed onto the front line.
The only kind of discrimination that remains is that no women can be posted to front line duty; without them requesting it obviously. Yup... that's discrimination.

Gender discrimination is scarce in the western world, society has changed and evolved around equality. It will only get stronger.

Lets not put men on the front line either. I mean, imagine the atrocities that could happen to them if they were captured. Torture, forced labor, rape, and possibly brainwashing! Not to mention they could die in combat. We wouldn't want that happening to them, now, would we?

So, sounds like a plan! Lets pull back the men from the front lines,since they're in sooo much danger.

Did you not read the whole post? Women can fight on the front line now, it's changed. Wow, look at that. People are being treated with respect, and yet people still argue it.

I did read the whole post, Fui. I didn't say anywhere that women couldn't fight in the front lines. My comment was responding to the excuse Grim gave about why women couldn't fight on the front lines before. Maybe you should read the whole post next time before making assumptions?

[Foopzheart]

Well your discrimination in the armed forces is not discrimination; it is 'believed' by a small minority to be discrimination. I can not speak entirely for America, but I can speak about the UK.
I pitch to you, why women would want to fight right on the front line. They were prevented from fighting there for a very good reason! Not because they can't do the job, men would be better (Hell they do nearly the same fitness tests); it's because of the kind of atrocities that could occur against them if captured. That is why they were prevented from fighting right on the front line.
Now, I know in the UK this has changed, women who wish to fight right on the front line can apply for roles - translator, liaison officer etc... - on the front line now. If they meet all the requirements and guidelines they will be allowed onto the front line.
The only kind of discrimination that remains is that no women can be posted to front line duty; without them requesting it obviously. Yup... that's discrimination.

Gender discrimination is scarce in the western world, society has changed and evolved around equality. It will only get stronger.

Lets not put men on the front line either. I mean, imagine the atrocities that could happen to them if they were captured. Torture, forced labor, rape, and possibly brainwashing! Not to mention they could die in combat. We wouldn't want that happening to them, now, would we?

So, sounds like a plan! Lets pull back the men from the front lines,since they're in sooo much danger.

Did you not read the whole post? Women can fight on the front line now, it's changed. Wow, look at that. People are being treated with respect, and yet people still argue it.

I did read the whole post, Fui. I didn't say anywhere that women couldn't fight in the front lines. My comment was responding to the excuse Grim gave about why women couldn't fight on the front lines before. Maybe you should read the whole post next time before making assumptions?

I did, though. Maybe you shouldn't dwell on a nasty past and focus on a bright future.

[Shadowstar1922]

You need to look on the past in order to not make the same mistakes again. I don't mean this in the history for fighting for women's rights, I mean this in all of history. You can't ignore and pretend something didn't happen because it's so nasty, and to just move on from it like that. you need to evaluate and analyse and learn.

I'm all for bright futures, that's why I'm a socialist and a progressive, you don't need to tell me twice. But to jump from past events with rainbows and sunshine, just because everything seems like it's fixed is not the way to go forward.

[Shadow00]

As a matter of fact, and this is based on legit data, women usually do NOT have the same physical capabilities as guys.
Here in Greece men and women placed in police academy underwent different tests, men doing the harder ones.
When women protested about being treated as equals, the tests became the same for everyone. (Using the males' test models).

Well, from a 50-50 ratio of men to women in the police per year, or 60-40, now its nearly 95-5 because women cant cope at the same level of tests. And are protesting about being treated harshly. Anyways, point is that the physical capabilities differ. Its commonly called as difference of sex. Males hunt for food, women give birth. Yeah it sucks, but thats how nature programmed the human bodies. Along with most other animal bodies.

Except hermaphrodites. Yeah, who cares about em anyways

[Foopzheart]

You need to look on the past in order to not make the same mistakes again. I don't mean this in the history for fighting for women's rights, I mean this in all of history. You can't ignore and pretend something didn't happen because it's so nasty, and to just move on from it like that. you need to evaluate and analyse and learn.

I'm all for bright futures, that's why I'm a socialist and a progressive, you don't need to tell me twice. But to jump from past events with rainbows and sunshine, just because everything seems like it's fixed is not the way to go forward.

If something is solved, and is solved by looking at the past and learning from it, I see no problem.