Two y/o accidentally shoots own mother - Gun Debate

[Flobalob]

You reap what you sow, no?
After all it was her mistake, so why should we feel bad about consequences she brought upon herself?

I see what you're saying, but that's not really the point. The point is that this never would have happened had she not been allowed to own the gun in the first place. I'm sure she had people who loved her - family, friends etc., there were witnesses who obviously saw the aftermath which I'm sure was gruesome, but primarily the kid. He'll have to go the rest of his life wondering who his mother was and what she was like, and knowing that the only reason he doesn't already know is because he shot her. He'll never live that down.

That's just a few examples of people affected by this one incident.

guns dont kill people, people kill people. Owning a gun is not the problem, the problem arises when people who do own guns don't take proper gun precautions. smh

That phrase.. I hate that phrase..

Seriously, that is so cliche, and whilst it may be true, omfg it's annoying.

If you take away the guns, there's no way for someone to improperly use one. Capiche?

[The Divine Potato]

You reap what you sow, no?
After all it was her mistake, so why should we feel bad about consequences she brought upon herself?

I see what you're saying, but that's not really the point. The point is that this never would have happened had she not been allowed to own the gun in the first place. I'm sure she had people who loved her - family, friends etc., there were witnesses who obviously saw the aftermath which I'm sure was gruesome, but primarily the kid. He'll have to go the rest of his life wondering who his mother was and what she was like, and knowing that the only reason he doesn't already know is because he shot her. He'll never live that down.

That's just a few examples of people affected by this one incident.

guns dont kill people, people kill people. Owning a gun is not the problem, the problem arises when people who do own guns don't take proper gun precautions. smh

That phrase.. I hate that phrase..

Seriously, that is so cliche, and whilst it may be true, omfg it's annoying.

If you take away the guns, there's no way for someone to improperly use one. Capiche?

Agreeing with this opinion.

It is like in kids soft play areas they have rules, those aren't enough so they put padded foam and other softening agents to make sure kids don't break their necks.

Sure if you took away guns then knife crime would increase, but it is a lot easier to treat a stab than a shot. Americans have plenty of self-defense methods any way, pepper spray, for example, about the equivalent to having sprayable tear gas, that is a lot less deadly than a gun, a bit like padding is less sore to fall on than concrete.

And about Excalibur's statement, this whole scenario kinda proves it obsolete, accidents do happen, I'll bring up a case that happened in Glasgow, a driver of a bin lorry is driving by George square and takes a heart attack, the lorry proceeds to spiral out of control and kill six people, injuring many more, three of the dead were from the town I live in.

Of course, I'm are not saying cars should be banned or bin lorries for that matter, but a gun has one intended use and one alone, to end the life of another living being, if you can't trust the people you vote into presidency and congress and all those other confusing government seats in America so badly that you need to make a rule to be able to stand up against them if they ever start sending your kids to work in sweatshops then how do you expect to trust an ordinary person on the street with the power to reach into their pocket/any conceivable place that a gun can be concealed and end your life like that?

[Excalibur]

The gun serves a very important purpose in America. Guns helped us win the Revolutionary War. The concept of protecting ourselves with our weapons is one that is deeply rooted in the foundations of America. The second amendment is proof of this.

Guns also serve to allow people to hunt and provide for their families. In fact here in Texas many people still go hunting to put food on the table.

What I am trying to say is don't blame guns; people are the ones who have to pull the trigger. Owning a gun is a big responsibility, it includes knowing how to use and store your gun properly.


@TDP All weapons are made for one purpose, to kill something.... not just guns.

[mop]

@TDP All weapons are made for one purpose, to kill something.... not just guns.

torture

[Excalibur]

@TDP All weapons are made for one purpose, to kill something.... not just guns.

torture

which too much of kill a person.

[Flobalob]

The gun serves a very important purpose in America. Guns helped us win the Revolutionary War. The concept of protecting ourselves with our weapons is one that is deeply rooted in the foundations of America. The second amendment is proof of this.

Guns also serve to allow people to hunt and provide for their families. In fact here in Texas many people still go hunting to put food on the table.

What I am trying to say is don't blame guns; people are the ones who have to pull the trigger. Owning a gun is a big responsibility, it includes knowing how to use and store your gun properly.

Guns helped the army win the Revolutionary War. I'm not saying take guns off the army, that's obviously ridiculous. These days, there's no need for the people to be armed for a fight. There's no one landing on American soil and invading anymore.

Taking ALL weapons off the people again, would be ridiculous. We don't do that here in Britain either; people need to show a proper requirement for one, though. Not just "Self-Defence" because anybody could claim that. If you live on a Texan ranch and can prove you need one to farm and hunt, then by all means you should be allowed a license.

And gun stores - Oh God gun stores. How many are there in America? 5,000,000,000,000? That's what it seems like. They're often just slap-bang in the middle of a town or city, near liquor/alcohol stores, and most likely packed public places and children's play areas/schools. It's just asking for trouble.

@TDP All weapons are made for one purpose, to kill something.... not just guns.

Not really, many are there primarily to maim/wound/immobilize etc. a target. Many can kill but are refrained from being used as such.

@TDP All weapons are made for one purpose, to kill something.... not just guns.

torture

which too much of kill a person.

so do bananas

Alice, for me you just won the internet.

[Excalibur]

To sum up my case, the answer to gun violence isnt gun control. The answer is proper gun education and moral values. What happens if only the government has guns and it goes corrupt, how will the people defend themselves? Guns are just objects, it's how mankind chooses to use or not use them which impacts our world.

[Shadow00]

Well as for the gun debate all I have to say is:


Guns exist. PERIOD.
They are effective at killing and so will be used.
Me, knowing that, would rather be certain my means of defense against any threat are as certain to kill said threat as possible.
Therefore I'd rather defend myself with a gun rather than a banana.
If you'd like to defend yourself with roses that's all too fine with me, but if you don't manage to poison Ivy your way out of a situation, don't expect me to be sad cause you couldn't take the right precautions.

Also,about "guns don't kill people" you really must beat someone hard with a gun to kill him. I use bullets

[Shadow00]

To sum up my case, the answer to gun violence isnt gun control. The answer is proper gun education and moral values. What happens if only the government has guns and it goes corrupt, how will the people defend themselves? Guns are just objects, it's how mankind chooses to use or not use them which impacts our world.

About the government thing.
The government atm is quite corrupt, creating wars here and there.
You are perfectly aware that if people march with guns against it they'll just get massacred by army right?

People owning guns don't threaten the government, if they did guns would be already banned.

[Flobalob]

To sum up my case, the answer to gun violence isnt gun control. The answer is proper gun education and moral values. What happens if only the government has guns and it goes corrupt, how will the people defend themselves? Guns are just objects, it's how mankind chooses to use or not use them which impacts our world.

Tbh, I think if that happened most members of the army wouldn't go along with it. They wouldn't shoot their own people. The rest of Advanced Warfare's story line is unbelievable too, not gonna lie.