Does MY DEFINITION of true love exist

[The Divine Potato]

A little analysis on Org's point describing the two drunk friends and the car crash. (Exempting the fact that friendship=/= love and car crashes are really hard to predict, unless you see a lot of people with a lot of alcohol in their systems attempting to drive the speed limit cubed.)

Even if those people Only live a shorter lifespan, it doesn't make the love exempt from existence, it did happen. Good things and bad things happen and we can't just shut ourselves off and think that things in the past did not happen, lest we forget two certain and very dark occasions when the world was thrown into turmoil. True love exists, but so does stupidity, and so does cause and effect and the three of them go together very well, a bit like the end of the tragedy of Romeo and Julliet.

Romeo finds Julliet 'dead' and decides to kill himself to be with her, Julliet wakes up some time later and jinds Romeo dead and promptly kills herself, and all that was out of true love, stupidity and cause and effect.

And yes, the pokemon reference was both irrelevant and immature, it can be taken other ways, like perhaps loads of weak things cannot take on one strong thing, a bit like the situation if the government of America decided they wanted to be oppressive and unethical too, but doesn't really have a place here.

[org36]

A little analysis on Org's point describing the two drunk friends and the car crash. (Exempting the fact that friendship=/= love and car crashes are really hard to predict, unless you see a lot of people with a lot of alcohol in their systems attempting to drive the speed limit cubed.)

Even if those people Only live a shorter lifespan, it doesn't make the love exempt from existence, it did happen. Good things and bad things happen and we can't just shut ourselves off and think that things in the past did not happen, lest we forget two certain and very dark occasions when the world was thrown into turmoil. True love exists, but so does stupidity, and so does cause and effect and the three of them go together very well, a bit like the end of the tragedy of Romeo and Julliet.

Romeo finds Julliet 'dead' and decides to kill himself to be with her, Julliet wakes up some time later and jinds Romeo dead and promptly kills herself, and all that was out of true love, stupidity and cause and effect.

And yes, the pokemon reference was both irrelevant and immature, it can be taken other ways, like perhaps loads of weak things cannot take on one strong thing, a bit like the situation if the government of America decided they wanted to be oppressive and unethical too, but doesn't really have a place here.

Lemme analyze my point too:
Left side is my point and right side is what it equals to irl.
Alcohol = Devotion (Meaning the more alcohol they drink the more devoted they are)
The Car = The Relationship (When they crash the car, irl they break up.)
Death = Them getting hurt because of breakup
Now, if you really want to dig deep:
Those-people-who-can-hold-their-alcohol = Those-people-who-are-heartless
Crashing into another car = Affecting others around them

You're still not getting the point though.
True Love is finding that one person that you were meant to be with.
There are many people you could end up with, but there is someone out there who was put on this earth specifically FOR you. At least, that's what I believe, because that's what I've come to find. Every guy (other than Alan) who I have dated hasn't smatched up to Alan and I don't believe in coincidences so that MUST mean that he is my "True Love".
Also, LOVE itself is not two people aimlessly serving each other for the rest of their lives (or Eternity in my case). It's two people working together as a team to make a marriage work. You can NOT have an effective marriage without love because without love there is no understanding and without understanding you can't work things out for the better of both of you. Marriage is about two people who can work together as a team to effectively raise a family.
Life isn't a fairy tale, but that doesn't mean that True Love doesn't exist.

You don't believe in coincidences? Oh goody. Also, I have NO IDEA what "smatched" means. Is that even a WORD? Also, sounds like you believe in Fate. Also, love isn't to work together to make a marriage work. When you love someone it doesn't mean you have to marry them. Unless it's that soulmate/true love thingy, which, well, you still don't have to, but you certainly think you MUST marry them when you find your "chosen one". "You will tear the fabric of time-space reality if you find your soulmate and not marry them!" I mean, you might be inclined to, but you can refuse.

-AHEM- Back to my point... love should exist even before you marry the other person. Love is what CAUSES you to want to marry the person. Like, I don't believe in that "Love At First Sight" bs. You need to date the person before you marry, to at least know that person well if it's the "Soulmate" thing. I know you've already known Alan for 5 years, and you already know what each other likes, dislikes etc, but still. Skipping that is a bad life decision. You'll get into conflicts even if you two are "soulmates", and the conflicts'll hurt you.

P.S. Whoever said people who marry even has babies? You're being stereotypical.

[Angel]

Well of course you have to love the person before you marry them!
But this topic is about TRUE LOVE and when you find that person you (if you're sane) want to be with that person forever. I'm not talking about "oh my gosh, that Billy kid in English class is so cute! I think I love him! He MUST be the one." I'm talking real relationships here, not high school crushes.

[The Divine Potato]

I think Org has strayed from the point of debating wether it exists to wether or not it can last forever.

[Foopzheart]

This is all very subjective. This is like religious debates, you'll get nowhere because people are going to believe what they believe and there's no legitimate proof in either direction.

[org36]

This is all very subjective. This is like religious debates, you'll get nowhere because people are going to believe what they believe and there's no legitimate proof in either direction.

Shush, this is my plot to make a topic that lasts for like 100 pages....shush.

Well of course you have to love the person before you marry them!
But this topic is about TRUE LOVE and when you find that person you (if you're sane) want to be with that person forever. I'm not talking about "oh my gosh, that Billy kid in English class is so cute! I think I love him! He MUST be the one." I'm talking real relationships here, not high school crushes.

You still didn't tell me what "smatched" means. Anywaaaaaays.

You said love is to make a marriage work. The marriage needs to be there in the first place for it to work. For the marriage to be there in the first place, you would have to have love for the person beforehand. Any irony? I think there is.

I think Org has strayed from the point of debating wether it exists to wether or not it can last forever.

...I'm pretty sure a relationship that can't last till death would also mean that a relationship doesn't have "true love" to it. Like, that true love stuff is -quotes angie with some alterations- "It's two people working together as a team to make a marriage work till death/for eternity" In that case, if their relationship turned sour before they died, it doesn't have true love. And that's why I was talking about whether it lasts forever.

[The Divine Potato]

...I'm pretty sure a relationship that can't last till death would also mean that a relationship doesn't have "true love" to it. Like, that true love stuff is -quotes angie with some alterations- "It's two people working together as a team to make a marriage work till death/for eternity" In that case, if their relationship turned sour before they died, it doesn't have true love. And that's why I was talking about whether it lasts forever.

You know your little baby will never each 100 pages on an unrelated note.

And totally every relationship goes sour JUST BEFORE they die, because you know every example, and about your very last sentence, does that mean you are exempting everything except the true love of a pair of immortal beings Eh?

Your argument has quite a few holes I will poke at later on.

[Angel]

Then THOSE people didn't have true love, doesn't mean that another couple can't have it.
I will always love Alan and no matter what you say about it, I do believe in true love because I have it. So suck it. (I know, very mature to add that in, but I had to haha)

[Dr Frook]

this all depends on what you think true love is... I think different people will have different views

[The Divine Potato]

This topic should have it's name changed to 'does my definition of true love exist?' And org should lay his definition clearly out on the table, then I will give my own definitive (to myself) yes or no.