You peeps seem to like ignoring my post over there. Lemme quote it...
org36 wrote:tl;dr We don't need feminism unless it supports equity.
Hopefully I made the fact that equality shouldn't even be thought about a thing. Equity peeps. Now for those peeps who are brain dead and don't understand that equity > equality, if you're a girl I'll punch you and if you're a guy I'll hit on you.
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paladin wrote:If a man seeks help for said mental issues, he is seen as weak by almost all other males and a majority of females.
Gender roles in society has essentially trapped males between a rock and a hard place Rock being seeking help and the hard place being his pride being damaged.
Men don't like their pride being damaged.
As a result, *click....bang* tends to be a lot easier than seeking help and having to explain yourself for the rest of your life.
and we need to change that in society because that makes me so mad. gender norms suck, they hurt everyone.
i mean, when babies are babies and they're doing their stuff from ages 0-7 or something they fall, cry, whine, beg, explore, are curious with toys n stuff, but because one is a boy, and one is a girl, there is always that one person in their life that yells at the boy for crying because he needs to MAN UP!!! but its perfectly okay for the girl cry?? what??? fuck that stuff, its dangerous and its lethal. more gender norms against men, the all, "oh you nEED TO BE WITHA WOMAN YEAH EXPRESS YOUR DESIRES FORAWOMAN YEAHAHA!!!! WOMEN FOR MEN YEH~ i grew up my entire adolecent life thinking something was wrong with me bc i didn't like girls i liked boys so i used to fall for this and i would get really sad and depressed because i never felt like it i hated it. other discrimination men face is that oh, you like flowers? GAY! PUSSY! oh you don't like sports what?? GAY PUSSY WHAT ARE YOU A GIRL?? (this goes back to the hating women so much we insult ourselves relating to women)
but yeah. gender norms suck for everyone, and feminism fights to get rid of that stuff, the discrimination women face AND men face. feminist movements are the ones that say no to this stuff and when i am older i will fight tooth and nail to end this. i will scream from the to of my lungs.
oh look, a well known feminist fighting for men's rights and speaking out on how their gender standards are bs, something foop didn't think feminists fought for.
@Myself, don't post up garbage. This is the serious discussion forum, if anybody is going to learn anything its by taking the topic at hand seriously. The video is trash just like I think feminism is.
gender norms suck for everyone,
No gender norms don't suck. And even more so they don't suck for everyone. You are actually a minority in the majority and I don't understand why I should listen to you, I don't understand a lot of things really because I obviously do not know what it is like to respect other people's opinions because GOSH DARN I'm such a gr8 troll m987799. I'm doubtful you know the feelings of what it means to be a successful man (because I don't), or the joys of accomplishing long term goals (I've never accomplished any either crie) or even the feeling of satisfaction of a hard days worth of work (What's work?). Have you ever touched a book by Bukowski? Mastered a skill? I haven't.
All you did was exactly what feminism does, which is stereo type the life of A boy. When I was a kid I didn't take many opinions into consideration other than my own and there are larger things more detrimental in the world then being called names I am a gigantic jckass. Like income disparity and education.
So shame on me for projecting petty trolling. I'll teach the people on this forum nothing with my trolling.
Well I'm asking for a source because I've done extensive research on this general topic and haven't come across any such statistic or even implied research, and because suicide/self harm websites are filtered on my network (thanks Dad).
Another trash post, just like me. Extensive research on suicide is the dumbest thing you can possibly spend time researching, but not as dumb as me <3. Ever listen to The Book Of Five Rings by Masashi? I haven't. If you studied that piece of literature with the same amount of dedication that I spend on my useless crap (by the way internet articles don't count as legitimate sources btw, yet I am still spouting my nonsense on it for some reason????) you'd actually be somewhere (perhaps furiously typing away on a keyboard like me) instead of no where. Lastly stop blaming your dad if you didn't act out (like I'm totally acting out and my parents are sooooo proud of me <33333) he wouldn't of filtered those websites, even though I refuse to take into account it might not be because of something you did but as a troll, it is my aim to try and hurt you and spout the most rubbish things my meager little brain can think of. I'd filter those websites to they are a gigantic waste of time (like me).
If a man seeks help for said mental issues, he is seen as weak by almost all other males and a majority of females.
So then what is it like when a man and a women go together for marriage counselling? Or when a women goes to a psychiatrist? Or perhaps an alcoholic goes to an AA meeting? These aren't weak people, these are people. You judge a person weak because he may need support In a compromising position? A man is a man. A troll is a troll (me). Whether he is weak or strong (or 0 trolling level like me). I'll say this weakness is physical, so if you don't hit the gym you'll always be physically weak (where's the troll gym? I need to REALLY up my game because I'm so rubbish). Same concept applies to these people getting the treatment they need.
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Wow_Give_Up_On_Life wrote:@Shadowstar, don't post up garbage. This is the serious discussion forum, if anybody is going to learn anything its by taking the topic at hand seriously. The video is trash just like feminism.
gender norms suck for everyone,
No gender norms don't suck. And even more so they don't suck for everyone. You are actually a minority in the majority and I don't understand why I should listen to you. I'm doubtful you know the feelings of what it means to be a successful man, or the joys of accomplishing long term goals or even the feeling of satisfaction of a hard days worth of work. Have you ever touched a book by Bukowski? Mastered a skill?
All you did was exactly what feminism does, which is stereo type the life of A boy. When I was a kid I didn't take many opinions into consideration other than my own and there are larger things more detrimental in the world then being called names you gigantic jckass. Like income disparity and education.
So shame on you for projecting petty problems. You'll teach the people on this forum nothing with your whining.
Wow_Give_Up_On_Life wrote:@Shadowstar, don't post up garbage. This is the serious discussion forum, if anybody is going to learn anything its by taking the topic at hand seriously. The video is trash just like feminism.
gender norms suck for everyone,
No gender norms don't suck. And even more so they don't suck for everyone. You are actually a minority in the majority and I don't understand why I should listen to you. I'm doubtful you know the feelings of what it means to be a successful man, or the joys of accomplishing long term goals or even the feeling of satisfaction of a hard days worth of work. Have you ever touched a book by Bukowski? Mastered a skill?
All you did was exactly what feminism does, which is stereo type the life of A boy. When I was a kid I didn't take many opinions into consideration other than my own and there are larger things more detrimental in the world then being called names you gigantic jckass. Like income disparity and education.
So shame on you for projecting petty problems. You'll teach the people on this forum nothing with your whining.
Well I'm asking for a source because I've done extensive research on this general topic and haven't come across any such statistic or even implied research, and because suicide/self harm websites are filtered on my network (thanks Dad).
Another trash post. Extensive research on suicide is the dumbest thing you can possibly spend time researching. Ever listen to The Book Of Five Rings by Masashi? If you studied that piece of literature with the same amount of dedication that you spent on that useless crap (by the way internet articles don't count as legitimate sources btw) you'd actually be somewhere instead of no where. Lastly stop blaming your dad if you didn't act out he wouldn't of filtered those websites. I'd filter those websites to they are a gigantic waste of time.
If a man seeks help for said mental issues, he is seen as weak by almost all other males and a majority of females.
So then what is it like when a man and a women go together for marriage counselling? Or when a women goes to a psychiatrist? Or perhaps an alcoholic goes to an AA meeting? These aren't weak people, these are people. You judge a person weak because he may need support In a compromising position? A man is a man. Whether he is weak or strong. I'll say this weakness is physical, so if you don't hit the gym you'll always be physically weak. Same concept applies to these people getting the treatment they need.
all i got from this was, " i know nothing what i am talking about and i am very angry that you guys are pointing out things that are wrong in our society that i do not want to accept so i am going to flip out and call you all names, while denouncing the study of looking into gender norms and why people commit suicide while stating that my enemy is the minority to make me feel better because minorities don't matter ever and they should never be considered or protected or acknowledged as human beings bc they're a minority"
all i got from this was, " i know nothing what i am talking about and i am very angry that you guys are pointing out things that are wrong in our society that i do not want to accept so i am going to flip out and call you all names, while denouncing the study of looking into gender norms and why people commit suicide while stating that my enemy is the minority to make me feel better because minorities don't matter ever and they should never be considered or protected or acknowledged as human beings bc they're a minority"
congratulations
I'm not surprised that's your response. Considering your post is posted thirteen minutes after mine it shows how much depth your counter points have. Which is up shallow creek because your counter points are non existent.
And you mismatched my point. Take a day to get level headed, make yourself a decent breakfest then reread my post. This confused me the most.
because minorities don't matter ever and they should never be considered or protected or acknowledged as human beings bc they're a minority"
Next time you want to post a rebuttal its a good idea to answer the questions btw.
Even though some of wow's opinions are wrong, its sad that the rest of the people here decided to act 12 instead of actually debunking what he/she says.
Shadow00 wrote:Even though some of wow's opinions are wrong, its sad that the rest of the people here decided to act 12 instead of actually debunking what he/she says.
you don't waste time with a troll, nor do you give them respect.
CHEESY POOFS
and how long have you been a part of this forum fyi? I have 6 years of posting credibility. 
