Gay Marriage

[mmm]

This phantom guy is getting on my nerves. Don't reply to him, you'll give him more ammo. Anyway, I think marriage is a right all people should have, regardless of race, sexual orientation, or gender. Gays obtaining matrimony however, is more complex. Some faiths allow it on the basis that all of God's children are created equal, some faiths do not on the basis that the Bible states that matrimony is a sacrament only between a man and a woman. I'm not quite sure what to believe for myself.

[woofwoof]

This phantom guy is getting on my nerves. Don't reply to him, you'll give him more ammo. Anyway, I think marriage is a right all people should have, regardless of race, sexual orientation, or gender. Gays obtaining matrimony however, is more complex. Some faiths allow it on the basis that all of God's children are created equal, some faiths do not on the basis that the Bible states that matrimony is a sacrament only between a man and a woman. I'm not quite sure what to believe for myself.

I'm on the fence too Mmm. That's why I think we should all just stop talking about this.

[mmm]

This phantom guy is getting on my nerves. Don't reply to him, you'll give him more ammo. Anyway, I think marriage is a right all people should have, regardless of race, sexual orientation, or gender. Gays obtaining matrimony however, is more complex. Some faiths allow it on the basis that all of God's children are created equal, some faiths do not on the basis that the Bible states that matrimony is a sacrament only between a man and a woman. I'm not quite sure what to believe for myself.

I'm on the fence too Mmm. That's why I think we should all just stop talking about this.

Good idea. It causes too much conflict.

[Phantom]

uh oh.. I fear a bigger conflict coming on.. Don't worry Emo, i got ya back, Bud!
Err! Don't hate the gays! It's not disgusting! If you ask me, it's an awesome and really cool thing. I am best friends with an fwg gay guy and a real life gay guy.. actually 2 real life gay guys, who would beat the lights out of a person who says being gay is wrong. It's not! Im surprised I havent turned agaisnt guys as many times as I have been beaten around by one!

Heck yea! Lol, all the gays are gonna gang up you suckers and we are being lead into battle by Princess Orby.. Lol.

wow.......

what is this? reverse discrimination? do i sense hate crime?

did i ever say anything about beating up a gay? no

did i ever say anything about all the straight people ganging up on gays? no

but if i were to, u guys would have said this is hate crime. i'm against gays but i never said anything about beating them up or causing physical harm to them in anyway. but u guys r talking about gays who would beat the lights out of a person who says being gay is wrong ( i highly doubt that). now, whats the difference between those gays and those who beat up on gays? to me, both are committing hate crime.

whos small minded and hateful now??

and being gay is wrong, i can go in the middle of the street, and scream out being gay is wrong, gay people are stupid, and i bet bet those faggots wouldn't dare come near me, they would just bitch out, and go on about their way. Its freedom of speech, u idiots.

just to make a point i gonna bring back this old post :

2 of my cousins are gay (Les), they lived in the same house, followed the same rules, and did normal girl stuff.

Now, one day, when I was with them hanging out, this idiot next door said, "Gay people are stupid."


This part is funny, my cousin walked over there and took one swing at his face and the dude was DOWN.

Whenever I'm sad, I think about that day.

so now, is it ok for gays to beat up someone for what they believe in? would u have found it funny if it were some gay guy that said 'straight people r stupid' and a straight person knock em out? would it still be funny then?

why does it seem that when a gay person would do that its tolerable and even funny to some...but if it was the other way around its considered hate crime? Both are hate crime and it isnt funny either way.

[ghost 9]

and being gay is wrong, i can go in the middle of the street, and scream out being gay is wrong, gay people are stupid, and i bet bet those faggots wouldn't dare come near me, they would just bitch out, and go on about their way. Its freedom of speech, u idiots.

that my friend, is discrimination, just verbal discrimination which is a violation of the first amendment, because u r verbaly abusing someone. so, now, i agree its wrong for ppl to gang up on each other, but u r discriminating by calling them idiots and such, and it IS a violation of the first amendment kiddo. i suggest you stop now, before u get introuble.

[Phantom]

and being gay is wrong, i can go in the middle of the street, and scream out being gay is wrong, gay people are stupid, and i bet bet those faggots wouldn't dare come near me, they would just bitch out, and go on about their way. Its freedom of speech, u idiots.

that my friend, is discrimination, just verbal discrimination which is a violation of the first amendment, because u r verbaly abusing someone. so, now, i agree its wrong for ppl to gang up on each other, but u r discriminating by calling them idiots and such, and it IS a violation of the first amendment kiddo. i suggest you stop now, before u get introuble.

that my friend was an example, and since when was freedom of speech a violation of the first amendment? if that's the case, then people verbally abuse each other everyday, the gays do it just as much as any body else.

[Zados]

freedom of speech

you should look up that phrase before you use it cause you clearly show that you dont even know what it is

[ghost 9]

and being gay is wrong, i can go in the middle of the street, and scream out being gay is wrong, gay people are stupid, and i bet bet those faggots wouldn't dare come near me, they would just bitch out, and go on about their way. Its freedom of speech, u idiots.

that my friend, is discrimination, just verbal discrimination which is a violation of the first amendment, because u r verbaly abusing someone. so, now, i agree its wrong for ppl to gang up on each other, but u r discriminating by calling them idiots and such, and it IS a violation of the first amendment kiddo. i suggest you stop now, before u get introuble.

that my friend was an example, and since when was freedom of speech a violation of the first amendment? if that's the case, then people verbally abuse each other everyday, the gays do it just as much as any body else.

insulting someone is usualy considered to be a violation of the first amendment.

[Munter]

I fear Woofwoof's word of warning arrived too late...

Firstly, violence is mainly wrong and should not be resorted to in most cases.

But there is a difference between fighting a biggot, which is what you are phantom, and someone who just wants to live their life as themselves.

What you haven't given is a reason as to why being gay is wrong. And trust me, I'm pretty sure if your option was to be skinned alive or to commit a gay act, you would commit the gay act. Hell I would If it meant staying alive, and I'm not even a smidgeon gay.

Basically, beating up a gay person just because they are gay is hate crime, this is an unmotivated attack.

If someone comes up to you and tells you that 'all gays are stupid, wrong, and disgusting' then that is a direct insult to any and all gay people. An act of violence in this case would come from a direct insult against them.

Let's hear your reason as to why being gay is wrong. Let's see if you can think of one that doesn't involve the Bible, since I have already shown that what you're preached is not necessarily what the bible actually says, since no one really knows what it actually says on homosexuals.

Oh and you're facing a ban if you tout any more bigoted words like 'faggot'.

This is supposed to be a discussion, not a forum equivalent of a shouting match.

[woofwoof]

I fear Woofwoof's word of warning arrived too late...

Firstly, violence is mainly wrong and should not be resorted to in most cases.

But there is a difference between fighting a biggot, which is what you are phantom, and someone who just wants to live their life as themselves.

What you haven't given is a reason as to why being gay is wrong. And trust me, I'm pretty sure if your option was to be skinned alive or to commit a gay act, you would commit the gay act. Hell I would If it meant staying alive, and I'm not even a smidgeon gay.

Basically, beating up a gay person just because they are gay is hate crime, this is an unmotivated attack.

If someone comes up to you and tells you that 'all gays are stupid, wrong, and disgusting' then that is a direct insult to any and all gay people. An act of violence in this case would come from a direct insult against them.

Let's hear your reason as to why being gay is wrong. Let's see if you can think of one that doesn't involve the Bible, since I have already shown that what you're preached is not necessarily what the bible actually says, since no one really knows what it actually says on homosexuals.

Oh and you're facing a ban if you tout any more bigoted words like 'faggot'.

This is supposed to be a discussion, not a forum equivalent of a shouting match.

Well you can tell Munt's mad here, by the way he's misspelling stuff. And I agree with him on the point that we shouldn't be getting so crazy over this. Let people believe what they're gonna believe, and don't just keep arguing. It's going around in circles, seriously. 'I hate gays' 'I like gays, you shouldn't hate gays' 'Well I hate gays, you shouldn't like gays' 'Well I like gays, you shou-' On and on and on. This is basically all you guys are doing! I understand this is a debate, but really, it's getting out of hand. Everyone just calm down and discuss this calmly, like it's supposed to be discussed! And if something starts getting out of hand, then just drop it! Say 'I don't agree, but I'm not gonna argue with you.' And let it go! Agree to disagree! Then start discussing calmly again. Please guys, it hurts people's feelings when you insult, argue, and diss. No one wants that here anyways, this is supposed to be a fun site for people to come and get along and make new friends, not for people to be hurt and make new enemies.