Gay Marriage

[Wow_Give_Up_On_Life]

Well here I'll use another example.

My example will be Child Pedophile. The comparisons are easy
to do and are simaliar to gays. If you loved my Serial Killer analogy,
you'll love this.

They wanna be gay, so fucking let them,

They want to have sex with young children. So let them.

I learned to accept it,

Since they have no control over their feelings for our younger generations
we just need to let them be.

Its life, its unfair, its not right. So just deal with it!!!

I'm trying to deal with it by trying to show people my point of view.
Just the way I work, deal with it.

By the way knowing people doesn't make much of a difference.
I know several gays/lesbians. I can deal with it, doesn't mean I
should stop believing in what is right.

[Zados]

nice nice ripped a few words out of their coherencies and twisted them into something different blacking out other arguements that go with those small quotes and totally ignoring the whole in one

[Dr Frook]

I can't believe this is still going on. OK, here are my thoughts (again). It's not wrong being gay, however, it should not be seen a something normal. It goes against any species survival requirements. Simply put, If everyone was gay, our species would cease to exist. There would be no procreation between females and males, there would be no more babies, and our current generation would be the last.

On the other hand, being gay may be natures way of saying there are too many humans on the planet. So, by making some humans gay, mother nature is trying to put the breaks on over population.

regardless of whether being gay is something natural or not, it causes no harm to others if two males or two females decide to marry. So why make an issue of it?

[Munter]

Oh and Wow, the comparison you're drawing is redundant.

Both examples you have cited do not involve everyone involved being consenting adults. Rapists and murderers don't exactly have the other person's consent.

So you're example is totally inappropriate and offensive.



I agree with fwg, being gay is not the norm. Seeing as a minority are actually homosexual. But the question as to whether it is wrong or not is another question.

[Lightning Orb]

Well here I'll use another example.

My example will be Child Pedophile. The comparisons are easy
to do and are simaliar to gays. If you loved my Serial Killer analogy,
you'll love this.

They wanna be gay, so fucking let them,

They want to have sex with young children. So let them.

I learned to accept it,

Since they have no control over their feelings for our younger generations
we just need to let them be.

Its life, its unfair, its not right. So just deal with it!!!

I'm trying to deal with it by trying to show people my point of view.
Just the way I work, deal with it.

By the way knowing people doesn't make much of a difference.
I know several gays/lesbians. I can deal with it, doesn't mean I
should stop believing in what is right.

As if that's really what I was talking about u stupid moron
& agreeing with zados, look at the whole point of view rather than chopping it up & making me look bad,
I love gay guys, and no I'm not a guy, and no I'm not gay,
I am just amused by why they are gay
Where the hell is Caleb when you need him..
Just because you still don't give a crap about them, doesn't mean you should be trashing them,

[Sano]

Well here I'll use another example.

My example will be Child Pedophile. The comparisons are easy
to do and are simaliar to gays. If you loved my Serial Killer analogy,
you'll love this.

They wanna be gay, so fucking let them,

They want to have sex with young children. So let them.

I learned to accept it,

Since they have no control over their feelings for our younger generations
we just need to let them be.

Its life, its unfair, its not right. So just deal with it!!!

I'm trying to deal with it by trying to show people my point of view.
Just the way I work, deal with it.

By the way knowing people doesn't make much of a difference.
I know several gays/lesbians. I can deal with it, doesn't mean I
should stop believing in what is right.

wow... you have no brain do you? there is no proof the EVERY gay person wants to have sex with young children. there is no proof that they cannot control their feelings, and your point of view is wrong. so deal with it.

[Phantom]

Let's hear your reason as to why being gay is wrong. Let's see if you can think of one that doesn't involve the Bible, since I have already shown that what you're preached is not necessarily what the bible actually says, since no one really knows what it actually says on homosexuals.

first of all, i havent used not one biblical fact to support my belief against gays. thats simply because i was trying to show u that u dont need to be a christian, or religious to see that being gay is wrong.

and also because not everyone believe in the bible, so u couldnt come at them with biblical fact if they dont belive in the bible in the first place

so of course what i am saying isnt what the bible actually says because i have yet to quote the bible.

Does it at all come as a surprise to anyone here that the one's against homosexuality are not atheist?




And if we are going to quote the bible, we should also remember what else the bible says.

I got this from christianteens.com

1 Corinthians 6:9-10 - "Do you not know that the wicked will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: Neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers nor male prostitutes nor homosexual offenders nor thieves nor the greedy nor drunkards nor slanderers nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God." (NIV).

While the scripture may sound clear, the debate actually surrounds the use of the Greek word that this particular version of the Bible translates as "homosexual offenders." The term is "arsenokoite." Some say that it is a reference to male prostitutes rather than to two committed homosexuals. Yet, others argue that Paul, who wrote the passage, would not have repeated "male prostitutes" twice. Even others argue that the two root words in arsenokoite are the same terms used to prohibit any premarital or extramarital sexual relations, so they may not refer to homosexual relations alone.

However, even if a person believes that homosexuality is a sin based upon this scripture, the next verse does say that homosexuals can inherit the kingdom if they come to the Lord, Jesus Christ.

1 Corinthians 6:11 - "And that is what some of you were. But you were washed, you were sanctified, you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ and by the Spirit of our God."



Basically, there are some passages that look like the Lord is against it. But because this book has been translated many time over thousands of years from various languages it's far too hard to give a definite answer to whether they are actually against homosexuals per se.


Yes, the Bible is the word of God (If you are Christian), but it was written down by man, then translated by another man into another language, then translated again, and probably revised a few times.

WOW.... i cant believe that u actually tried to show that the bible justified gays and it clearly doesnt

but since ur not religious, that means u probably dont know the bible very well so i cant really get into depths with u on what the bible says about homosexuals.

but here is a little something about what else the bible say about homos and other stuff.....which is a bit more straight forward and to the point

this is from the book of Leviticus(KJV):

10 And the man that committeth adultery with another man's wife, even he that committeth adultery with his neighbour's wife, the adulterer and the adulteress shall surely be put to death.

11 And the man that lieth with his father's wife hath uncovered his father's nakedness: both of them shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them.

12 And if a man lie with his daughter in law, both of them shall surely be put to death: they have wrought confusion; their blood shall be upon them.

13 If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them.

14 And if a man take a wife and her mother, it is wickedness: they shall be burnt with fire, both he and they; that there be no wickedness among you.

15 And if a man lie with a beast, he shall surely be put to death: and ye shall slay the beast.

16 And if a woman approach unto any beast, and lie down thereto, thou shalt kill the woman, and the beast: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them.

17 And if a man shall take his sister, his father's daughter, or his mother's daughter, and see her nakedness, and she see his nakedness; it is a wicked thing; and they shall be cut off in the sight of their people: he hath uncovered his sister's nakedness; he shall bear his iniquity.

18 And if a man shall lie with a woman having her sickness, and shall uncover her nakedness; he hath discovered her fountain, and she hath uncovered the fountain of her blood: and both of them shall be cut off from among their people.

19 And thou shalt not uncover the nakedness of thy mother's sister, nor of thy father's sister: for he uncovereth his near kin: they shall bear their iniquity.

20 And if a man shall lie with his uncle's wife, he hath uncovered his uncle's nakedness: they shall bear their sin; they shall die childless.

21 And if a man shall take his brother's wife, it is an unclean thing: he hath uncovered his brother's nakedness; they shall be childless.

[Phantom]

Let's hear your reason as to why being gay is wrong. Let's see if you can think of one that doesn't involve the Bible.....

being is wrong because, it goes against nature......and something doesnt necessarily has to be wrong because it causes harm....

they are many things that doesnt cause harm but it still is wrong,

[Lightning Orb]

it goes against nature...

Again.. how?

[Dr Frook]

being is wrong because, it goes against nature......and something doesnt necessarily has to be wrong because it causes harm....

they are many things that doesnt cause harm but it still is wrong,

as I mentioned in my earlier post, it does not necessarily go against nature. The very fact that it exists in humans and some other species indicates that evolutionary forces seem to think it is of some value. It could be natures way of slowing down population explosions, or maybe it's just natures way of saying it doesn't want a certain type of person to breed.

Regardless of the reason, it exists, it is all part of nature, it may not be 'normal', but it is not something wrong or evil.