Vegetarianism

[Dr Frook]

the way I see it, humans kill animals in the most 'humane' way compared with deaths in the animal kingdom. Just think of how much 'fun' something has when a crocodile kills them during a death roll, or a lion chasing after an antelope and then biting it's neck until it bleeds to death. Having higher intelligence does not change a thing, except that some of us now have a conscience of sorts. Eat meat. Protesting against the way animals are treated is pointless. You might as well protest to the crocodiles and lions and sharks. They do it in the LEAST humane way. It's all part of nature. Human activity and eating habits is part of nature (big brain is irrelevant). Live with it.

[Shadow00]

Anyways,I already stated that I have no morals left (apart of the basic ones) whatsoever. If you want to survive in a world like today's,you can't have morals,except of the basic ones... It's one's death for another's survival. That's the end of it for me. After all,let's Allow anyone else speak their mind

~this is what is wrong with society today~
NO ONE CARES BOUT ANYTHING BUT THEMSELVES!!!
ugh >:I

I'm sorry,but this Isnt a movie,it is life.
In life,the strong survive(the way I see it) and there are almost never happy endings.
Be realistic. As FWG said,why should we even go against our nature? Is it out of reaction? Or just over-sensitivity? I say it's for profit. As well as anything else,vegetarianism is a huge profit for certain companies. Not for yourself.If you'd like,check what I'm saying. There are people that have earned millions,billions, by your eating habits, as vegetarianism is a little more complicated than the natural way (killing an animal then eating it). Same as for global organizations such as UNICEF etc. it's not as noble and good as it looks.

[Dr Frook]

being vegetarian based on taste is fine. Objecting based on moral grounds in misguided most of the time - as animals are usually treated very well and killed in a relatively humane way. In instances where the animals are subjected to terrible conditions, bad deaths etc, it is usually made known on news and other media. It does not happen for all meat and definitely is not the norm.

[Shadowstar1922]

Plants can very well FEEL touches to them. Many experiments have been conducted, from my research. If you put a small fire next to a healthy plant, not enough to set it on fire, but pretty close, the plant will slowly move it's leaves, stem, and flowers away from the fire. A plant on a windowsill. The leaves are positioned to be where the sun is. If you turn it around, the next day or two, the leaves will be back where they're suppose to be.

Plants can very well feel pain, and other, "feelings" you could say. I completely agree with Frank. If you feel bad about eating animals, because they feel the pain, the terror and horror, etc, then you shouldn't eat plants either. they can very well feel it when you rip the part of the plant you want from it, off of them.

The Human Species is a predator. We are a dominant species in our humble earth, which means we eat others for survival. That's how its been for a very long time now. Meat is an essential part of our diet that we need to eat in order to grow properly and healthy. Me hearing how people become vegetarians really bugs me out.

ok, so explain to me this then. if plants and animals both have feelings, and both have can sence pain. then why is it ok to post a video of somone ripping a plant out of the ground then cooking it, but it isnt ok to post a video of somone slaughtering a pig as it squeels and struggles to get away and then ripping its guts out, chopping it up, and grilling it.

one is acceptable by society and one isnt. fighting on the "meat eating" side you say "oh you shouldnt post the vegtable video then" but, the thing is you can and it is 100% accepted by society, as butcheing an animal with so you say the "same feelings" isnt.

Okay, justy because one meat company (i know there's a lot more) treat cruelty to the animals, doesn't mean every single meat company in America, automaticly does the same. My Father is a butcher, he visits the breeding grounds where Price Chopper(where he works) and has seen how they are treated, and killed. they're treated quiete fairly, and most animals take pain killers before they die.

He's explained to me that some companies use fear to make the meat taste better, while others treat them with care and not cruelty.

Not ALL meat companies are cruel to the animals. And why would you compare to ripping out plants and cooking them, to the animals dying, and hearing squeels. Are you dumb? plants can't scream when in pain. animals can. to me, it's stupid when someone compares two different living organisms on how they react to pain, when one can't even scream...

[Shadow00]

@Shadowstar1922:
About the screaming part, it doesn't mean that if one species doesn't scream they don't feel pain. The point is,if one wants to survive in this world,they can eat animals as well as plants not caring about how that food got to them.

[Amy]

Might as well give in my opinion -

I've grown up in rural England. Around here, we are all used to living much within nature - unlike some of you who may live in cities and do not see the farms, the forests where the animals come from. We shoot pheasants, rear animals, and from as young as I can remember that has been the norm. I don't see what is wrong with it in the slightest - in our case, we produce what we need to eat, no cruelty, or forced breeding happens. It's simple, clean farming. Although I don't agree with mass producing meat for populations, I believe this way of farming has no ethical issues attached - the animals lived "happy" lives, they weren't badly treated.

On alternatives for meat now, there is no true alternative. Quorn, tofu, all that is replacement within a meal to give you more than some lettuce, but it doesn't give you a fully balanced meal.

Being diabetic, I had to give up being vegetarian on my diagnosis. Meat is vital, as it has no carbs, meaning less medicine - it's a very healthy option for us. Quorn and tofu contains carbs, more medicine...diabetes and vegetarianism simply don't work.

All in all, there is nothing wrong with being vegetarian - it's healthy. however, on a moral scale, like munter simply avoiding processed foods, buying free range eggs and meat is just as well.

Even if you become vegetarian, that doesn't mean everyone will. And as long as there is a demand for meat, animals will be slaughtered and sold to those demanding it.

[Lamb]

You'll be what you eat so if you just eat plants you will be eating by the rest of the vegetarians but any ways i eat what i can eat without caring what it is and eating meat makes me feel above the food chain so i am the most fit to survive.
(i know you choose to eat plants)

[Dr Frook]

You'll be what you eat so if you just eat plants you will be eating by the rest of the vegetarians but any ways i eat what i can eat without caring what it is and eating meat makes me feel above the food chain so i am the most fit to survive.
(i know you choose to eat plants)

I feel like lamb cutlets for dinner...

[Shadow00]

You'll be what you eat so if you just eat plants you will be eating by the rest of the vegetarians but any ways i eat what i can eat without caring what it is and eating meat makes me feel above the food chain so i am the most fit to survive.
(i know you choose to eat plants)

I feel like lamb cutlets for dinner...

I think you just gave lamb a heart attack

[RealRoi]

Let me first inform you, I have been vegetarian since I was born, I don't eat eggs, no meat, I just have plain vegetarian food for my meals. And I am as normal as the other non-veg folks out there. As far as protein consciousness is concerned, Humans don't need too much proteins as we describe we need to have. There is one distinct difference between vegetarians and non-vegetarians which I want you guys to know since people say, "Oh, so you don't kill, when you need to have meat, I am sure non-vegetarians kill the animal, but as far as Vegetarians are concerned, We dont kill a TREE if we want a fruit, PLANTS have an ABILITY TO REGENERATE THEIR BRANCHES AND REGROWTH, Animals DONT. I have no right to dictate terms on somebody else's food, because ultimately it contributes for his/her nourishment, but as far as today's dietary commitments are concerned, we are going way to far, and adding to it the fast-food chains, meat eating is more frequent than what it should be. Yes, everyone has opinions, I respect it totally, but this is what I think, forgive me if i am wrong.