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Re: God... Science?

Postby meiguorach » 02 Oct 2012, 23:33

Okay, so what caused the heat? ;)
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Re: God... Science?

Postby ObsidianTheGod » 03 Oct 2012, 02:08

meiguorach wrote:Okay, so what caused the heat? ;)


By saying that, you've proved my point.
Heat, the first particles to even exist, God.
We don't need to pray to him, because I do not believe he exists in a way most people believe him to.
I believe he is everything.
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Re: God... Science?

Postby meiguorach » 03 Oct 2012, 03:07

ObsidianTheGod wrote:
meiguorach wrote:Okay, so what caused the heat? ;)


By saying that, you've proved my point.
Heat, the first particles to even exist, God.
We don't need to pray to him, because I do not believe he exists in a way most people believe him to.
I believe he is everything.


lol, I don't see how that proves your point, but I'll just stop on that point.

You believe that God is everything, but He Himself never made that claim in the Bible, which He wrote.
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Re: God... Science?

Postby Shadow00 » 03 Oct 2012, 21:37

meiguorach wrote:Okay, so what caused the heat? ;)

Thanks for making a post such as this.
Heat was caused by extremely high pressures on an extremely small amount of mass.
The mass exploded, causing the universe to expand.
But since we got to that point, let me ask you one thing aswell.
God claims in the bible (actually the person that wrote the bible claims) that god created everything. Now let me tell you something.
When fire was discovered/invented, man thought it was God.
Why? Because he disnt understand the concept of:
Lightning----->Wood------>Fire----->ashes.
Now people dont understand how the universe was created.
Does that mean god created it? Nope.
Is there proof god created it? Nope.

My opinion on all this, is, was and will be, that religions today only serve "divide and conquer", and by time they will vanish. Furthermore, they have nothing to offer you othwr than that which you already know.
World peace? Ask for a fanatic islamist and a fanatic christian to live together in peace, as the "word of god" is, and you'll find out soon enough that religions are like football teams and nothing more.

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Re: God... Science?

Postby dankness75 » 05 Oct 2012, 10:25

Shadow00 wrote:
meiguorach wrote:Okay, so what caused the heat? ;)

Thanks for making a post such as this.
Heat was caused by extremely high pressures on an extremely small amount of mass.
The mass exploded, causing the universe to expand.
But since we got to that point, let me ask you one thing aswell.
God claims in the bible (actually the person that wrote the bible claims) that god created everything. Now let me tell you something.
When fire was discovered/invented, man thought it was God.
Why? Because he disnt understand the concept of:
Lightning----->Wood------>Fire----->ashes.
Now people dont understand how the universe was created.
Does that mean god created it? Nope.
Is there proof god created it? Nope.

My opinion on all this, is, was and will be, that religions today only serve "divide and conquer", and by time they will vanish. Furthermore, they have nothing to offer you othwr than that which you already know.
World peace? Ask for a fanatic islamist and a fanatic christian to live together in peace, as the "word of god" is, and you'll find out soon enough that religions are like football teams and nothing more.


Football teams? What exactly do you mean by that? And by the way....... It's actually bigger than football teams. Although, it is more likely that Islam will stick with there own people and Christians will stick with theres then that has nothing got to do with religion. I don't know in the Bible but I do know in the Qur'an for a fact that it doesn't restrict us or making friends with non Islamic people.

Is there proof god created it? Nope. We don't need proof for everything. Like I said, you cant see the wind but you can feel it. How are we supposed to show the wind? We can only feel it? God must have created it otherwise, this whole world would be outta control.


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Re: God... Science?

Postby Shadow00 » 05 Oct 2012, 10:47

@dankness
Football teams as in that groups of people fanatically support their religion wanting it to "win" against all others.
And, we know what wind is, what it is composed of etc. with some simple tools you can see it.
Unlike this, for god we have no proof.

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Re: God... Science?

Postby dankness75 » 05 Oct 2012, 13:21

Shadow00 wrote:@dankness
Football teams as in that groups of people fanatically support their religion wanting it to "win" against all others.
And, we know what wind is, what it is composed of etc. with some simple tools you can see it.
Unlike this, for god we have no proof.


You know what wind is and I wonder what tools but how about this. I slap some one and they say obviously, it hurts. I ask them to show me the pain or the shape of the pain..... They wont be able to show it nor draw it.


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Re: God... Science?

Postby meiguorach » 07 Oct 2012, 22:10

Mmk, I just wanna say this. God is so big. If indeed he DID create everything in he universe, doesn't it make sense that we wouldn't completely understand Him? A God big enough to create all there is would be so big that we could not comprehend all of who He is or what He is capable of. That in of itself is enough reason to worship Him.

It makes more sense to believe in a Creator creating and to believe that everything we see around us just happened by chance as a result of some particles exploding.
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Re: God... Science?

Postby GarthVader449 » 08 Oct 2012, 10:50

ObsidianTheGod wrote:
meiguorach wrote:Okay, so what caused the heat? ;)


By saying that, you've proved my point.
Heat, the first particles to even exist, God.
We don't need to pray to him, because I do not believe he exists in a way most people believe him to.
I believe he is everything.


Obs has a point, I few of my friends don't beleive G-d is a being or superior than us but he is energy; and this energy is called 'G-d' for it being the most important thing in the universe because nothing could exsit without it. Thus then meaning "He is everything".
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Re: God... Science?

Postby meiguorach » 08 Oct 2012, 14:44

GarthVader449 wrote:
ObsidianTheGod wrote:
meiguorach wrote:Okay, so what caused the heat? ;)


By saying that, you've proved my point.
Heat, the first particles to even exist, God.
We don't need to pray to him, because I do not believe he exists in a way most people believe him to.
I believe he is everything.


Obs has a point, I few of my friends don't beleive G-d is a being or superior than us but he is energy; and this energy is called 'G-d' for it being the most important thing in the universe because nothing could exsit without it. Thus then meaning "He is everything".


My responding argument to Obs still stands. God never claimed to be everything. He claimed to be the creator of all, and He can't very well be His own creation.
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