Why We Still Need Feminism

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Re: Why We Still Need Feminism

Postby Shadow00 » 20 Nov 2014, 18:47

Tycoon Witch wrote:
Shadow00 wrote:
Tycoon Witch wrote:
Shadow00 wrote:Well there are 2 kinds of people.also yeah we get it you don't like guys, not the point here. The point here is that if ANYONE gave me that compliment (dude, chick whatever even SIRI), I'd be flattered.

i don't like anyone sexually, im asexual, but yeah that's not the point

Good for you.
Then don't act like you know what its like to get compliments as they wouldn't arouse you either way.
You see them as insults or waste of your time simply because you can't earn anything from them.

no that's not right sexual attraction doesn't equal arousal so don't insult me please
a compliment is to make someone feel good about themselves not arouse them tho?? i tell my nine year old sister that her new dress is cute, and i mean it... but im not trying to arouse her

Actually.
After people turn adults, most compliments made are to
1) get laid
2) avoid getting sacked
3) Get favorable positions.
4) just because they are nice
In that order.
You'll probably see it when you grow up.

Also this is getting off topic.
We have like 20 people arguing with 3 people for like 10 pages of comments, half of which are mine and sauce's.
If you really don't have any new info that can actually get it started again, I might as well lock it

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Re: Why We Still Need Feminism

Postby Tycoon » 20 Nov 2014, 18:55

Shadow00 wrote:If you really don't have any new info that can actually get it started again, I might as well lock it

don't lock it because i will get more, i just have a huge ton of french coursework
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Re: Why We Still Need Feminism

Postby Father Anderson » 20 Nov 2014, 20:43

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The Baconator wrote: Women in the USA are hardly mistreated on a large scale, individual people do, but that goes the same for everyone. So yeah, Feminism isn't needed HERE.
i disagree, im sure feminism is still needed

Being all politically correct isn't for everyone, I agree, people should know about their government, but they shouldn't go all lawyer if somebody says something a TWINGE incorrect.
I wouldn't get angry or anything I'd just show them what it actually means because if someone's against feminists because of the misandrists pretending to be feminists then thats not good
I don't think it is ok to make such a huge deal about American feminist movements, when we should be more concerned with places, like again, Saudi Arabia, or any kind of Arabic nation that pulls the same shit. Stop thinking about yourselves for once, and worry about people worse off than you
the picture said it fights for everyone's rights. well also some people are unable to fight for rights s uch as in Saudi Arabia, so we try to fix the problems that we can try to fix. yeah there are awful problems elsewhere - but saying "your problem doesn't matter because there are worse problems" isn't okay
, once that gets better, THEN you guys should bitch and moan about a guy saying Hi on the street.
it wasn't just about a guy saying hi, it was the creepy guys calling from down the street and yelling hey sexy - its not a compliment. if it was it would be taken that way. when the majority of women don't like it then maybe it should stop? idk

The real question is. "Why do we Still need this Topic?"
like you said the usa isn't the only place needing feminism

Ok so firstly, you guys were griping about WESTERN feminist stuff.
Western means America, and Canada. Feminists in those places have almost no problems. Like I said, bad stuff happens to INDIVIDUAL people, and you are honestly generalizing that.
"It isn't a compliment, if it was, it'd be taken as such" Whoa whoa whoa, you can read men's minds?????!!!!!1! Teach me how to do that!
Nah, but really, if the person doesn't take it as a compliment, their fault.
Rape is NOT the woman's fault, do note I agree on that.
And as for the saying that its wrong to think of others, and ignore our insignificant ones to focus on more important issues, that's just how I was raised, honestly. I do not agree that its wrong, its like having an easy assignment, and a difficult one, which one are you gonna deal with first? I would tackle the hard one, so it would be smooth sailing ahead. See where I'm coming from?
Also, let me reiterate, you guys only griped about WESTERN FEMINISM. Western Feminism is not needed. Eastern Feminism is.
No scope was involved in the making of this post.
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Re: Why We Still Need Feminism

Postby Tycoon » 20 Nov 2014, 20:52

The Baconator wrote:Ok so firstly, you guys were griping about WESTERN feminist stuff.
Western means America, and Canada. Feminists in those places have almost no problems. yeah but for some people all they can do is fix thatLike I said, bad stuff happens to INDIVIDUAL people, and you are honestly generalizing that.
"It isn't a compliment, if it was, it'd be taken as such" Whoa whoa whoa, you can read men's minds?????!!!!!1! Teach me how to do that! it works both ways - you can read women's minds and tell that they want to be catcalled at
Nah, but really, if the person doesn't take it as a compliment, their fault.
Rape is NOT the woman's fault, do note I agree on that. yup!
And as for the saying that its wrong to think of others, and ignore our insignificant ones to focus on more important issues, that's just how I was raised, honestly. I do not agree that its wrong, its like having an easy assignment, and a difficult one, which one are you gonna deal with first? I would tackle the hard one, so it would be smooth sailing ahead. See where I'm coming from?
Also, let me reiterate, you guys only griped about WESTERN FEMINISM. Western Feminism is not needed. Eastern Feminism is.
No scope was involved in the making of this post.

fair enough, i see where our opinions overlap
i do believe the difficult stuff should be handled first - eastern feminism - but for those who can't do anything about that - lack of money, disability, age, for whatever reason, why should they not attempt to handle the easier - western feminism.

i wasn't just posting about western feminism, i posted about the poor girl who was viciously attacked when she didn't have a sufficient dowry

feminism is still needed in both places but in the east more


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Re: Why We Still Need Feminism

Postby Father Anderson » 21 Nov 2014, 02:10

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See what I meant by Tumblr attacking people for having a view?

Anyway, let's crack on. In response to the points:

-My life is far from okay and I care very much about what other people (all people not just women) go through. I can't sympathise with things I don't feel the need to sympathise with just because some people play victim.

-Some feminists are whiny, but not all. I don't generalise. Stereotypes are only harmful if they're taken seriously. Jokes aren't serious, that's the whole point.

-Political correctness is for people who are disadvantaged. So you're saying women are disadvantaged? Isn't that what you're fighting against, so contradictory? How about instead of 'I'm a victim YOU MUST HELP ME' you adopt the attitude of 'I don't like the position I'm in so I'm going to make myself better and work for what I want'?

-No, like many people have previously stated, there's a difference between Western and Non-Western feminism. If you'd bothered to read my previous post, you would realise this. I just don't think these problems you speak of are massive issues in society, and that's my personal opinion.

-Marxist view. We live in a different society with different values and morals. Modern feminism is different than that. I'm grateful for old feminism of course, but that doesn't mean I agree with one segment of modern feminism. The two are totally different.

-Speaks of equality and freedom yet discriminates people because they don't agree with them. Right that sounds legit.
-I'm very familiar with Human Rights and I see no breach of them towards women in the Western world. WESTERN.

-Yet you're attacking me for my view. I'm more impressed with Emma Watson's articulation of her views on feminism, I just wish other people would adopt that style. She says that it's a choice that is offered to people, not something that is rammed down our throats until we accept it.

-I don't. Not true feminism. But that's been distorted beyond the point of recognition these days don't you think.

-Feminism is equal rights for all genders. Something I believe is already established in the Western world.


Insulting people because of their views is a very immature thing to do, btw. You'd gain much more respect using logic and reasoning.

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Re: Why We Still Need Feminism

Postby Boxorino » 29 Nov 2014, 18:13

“The Iowa Supreme Court on Friday stood by its ruling that a dentist acted legally when he fired an assistant because he found her too attractive and worried he would try to start an affair. Coming to the same conclusion as it did in December, the all-male court found that bosses can fire employees they see as threats to their marriages, even if the subordinates have not engaged in flirtatious or other inappropriate behavior. The court said such firings do not count as illegal sex discrimination because they are motivated by feelings, not gender." [x]
that was dramatic. still ready 2 die tho!

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Re: Why We Still Need Feminism

Postby Shadowstar1922 » 29 Nov 2014, 19:12

IlikeAwesomeSauce wrote:“The Iowa Supreme Court on Friday stood by its ruling that a dentist acted legally when he fired an assistant because he found her too attractive and worried he would try to start an affair. Coming to the same conclusion as it did in December, the all-male court found that bosses can fire employees they see as threats to their marriages, even if the subordinates have not engaged in flirtatious or other inappropriate behavior. The court said such firings do not count as illegal sex discrimination because they are motivated by feelings, not gender." [x]

wtf just because they can't keep it in their pants is a load of bs.
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Re: Why We Still Need Feminism

Postby Shadow00 » 29 Nov 2014, 19:37

Shadowstar1922 wrote:
IlikeAwesomeSauce wrote:“The Iowa Supreme Court on Friday stood by its ruling that a dentist acted legally when he fired an assistant because he found her too attractive and worried he would try to start an affair. Coming to the same conclusion as it did in December, the all-male court found that bosses can fire employees they see as threats to their marriages, even if the subordinates have not engaged in flirtatious or other inappropriate behavior. The court said such firings do not count as illegal sex discrimination because they are motivated by feelings, not gender." [x]

wtf just because they can't keep it in their pants is a load of bs.[/quote
Technically, it is a private business and its owner can literally do WHATEVER THE HELL HE WANTS.
Of course if it were some company doing that eg Google, they'd already be facing charges.

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Re: Why We Still Need Feminism

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Re: Why We Still Need Feminism

Postby Boxorino » 04 Dec 2014, 01:50

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i posted that video a while ago!!!!
that was dramatic. still ready 2 die tho!


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