Vegetarianism

[J3rdegree]

~~~~~~~~~~My whole life i have been a "meat eater" like most of the world, not thinking about what i am supporting, paying for, and essentially doing to animals. one day i was watching a youtuber who usually makes comedy sketches, when i saw on the sidebar a 2nd youtube channel for him that he talked about serious things and gave advice. i watched a few and then subscribed to that channel also because it seemed helpfull and trustworthy. about a month later he put up a video about Vegetarianism and i was shocked, he brought to my eyes what i have been unconciously denying for most of my life.. what we are really doing by eating meat without real reason. he was attacked by trolls soon after and made a chain of about 5 videos on this topic, but one really hit home and gave me a push to become vegetarian. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=irJutGjyd6I
(if you are scared of the truth or don't want to feel bad about what you are doing please do not watch the video, it also contains much use of the word "idiot" and "stupid" in an offensive manner but only 1 mild cussword)

but in conclusion i want to know what are you guy's idea on the topic...
i am all for vegetarianism but i need to find protein alternatives first, because i dislike normal nuts, beans, peanutbutter, and tofu greatly.

please say other good protein alternatives if you know any and your thoughts on vegetarianism

[wii dude is the best]

Veggie burgers taste like toilet and carpet

[Dr Frook]

Being vegetarian goes against human biology. We evolved to eat a combination of meat, vegetables and fruit. It is how our body gets nourishment and it is the way of things. Eating other animals for our survival is a fact of life and we cannot feel guilty about it. On the other hand, if you think it is wrong to eat animals, the same can be said about plants. They are living organisms. Why should they suffer? If you have a problem with eating any form of life, it is best to start eating rocks. They are not living.

[J3rdegree]

Being vegetarian goes against human biology. We evolved to eat a combination of meat, vegetables and fruit. It is how our body gets nourishment and it is the way of things. Eating other animals for our survival is a fact of life and we cannot feel guilty about it. On the other hand, if you think it is wrong to eat animals, the same can be said about plants. They are living organisms. Why should they suffer? If you have a problem with eating any form of life, it is best to start eating rocks. They are not living.

but the thing is frubey (as pointed out in the video) there ARE alternatives to meat, but there is NO alternatives to eating plants. so it is no longer needed as a way of life, it USED to when we didnt have these alternatives to the nutrients that meat gives. and the human body isnt perfectly adapted to eating meat, the human body must adjust to digest meat properly.

also another valid topic is that plants have no nervous system, which means that they cannot feel pain.

[Dr Frook]

Being vegetarian goes against human biology. We evolved to eat a combination of meat, vegetables and fruit. It is how our body gets nourishment and it is the way of things. Eating other animals for our survival is a fact of life and we cannot feel guilty about it. On the other hand, if you think it is wrong to eat animals, the same can be said about plants. They are living organisms. Why should they suffer? If you have a problem with eating any form of life, it is best to start eating rocks. They are not living.

but the thing is frubey (as pointed out in the video) there ARE alternatives to meat, but there is NO alternatives to eating plants. so it is no longer needed as a way of life, it USED to when we didnt have these alternatives to the nutrients that meat gives. and the human body isnt perfectly adapted to eating meat, the human body must adjust to digest meat properly.

also another valid topic is that plants have no nervous system, which means that they cannot feel pain.

how do we know they don't feel pain in another way?

[chudders]

Humans are omnivores. We are supposed to eat meat. The animals made for meat wouldn't live in the FIRST place withoutpeople wanting to eat them. My old scout leader supplies for a butcher, and he says, ''We have given the animals a good life, and now it is time to give it back''
Chudd

[Shadowstar1922]

Plants can very well FEEL touches to them. Many experiments have been conducted, from my research. If you put a small fire next to a healthy plant, not enough to set it on fire, but pretty close, the plant will slowly move it's leaves, stem, and flowers away from the fire. A plant on a windowsill. The leaves are positioned to be where the sun is. If you turn it around, the next day or two, the leaves will be back where they're suppose to be.

Plants can very well feel pain, and other, "feelings" you could say. I completely agree with Frank. If you feel bad about eating animals, because they feel the pain, the terror and horror, etc, then you shouldn't eat plants either. they can very well feel it when you rip the part of the plant you want from it, off of them.

The Human Species is a predator. We are a dominant species in our humble earth, which means we eat others for survival. That's how its been for a very long time now. Meat is an essential part of our diet that we need to eat in order to grow properly and healthy. Me hearing how people become vegetarians really bugs me out.

[musicfreak1525]

i'm a vegetarian, have been most of my life unless i have been forced to eat meat.. its really not agaisnt human nature to be vegetarian... yes there have been tests to suggest that plants also have feelings or whatnot, and if you are going vegetarian for ethical reasons its something to consider, but what else are you going to do... what they do to animals for meat production is cruel, even though they say its in the most humane way possible its still not right..
I dont eat any of those pre made vegetarian meals and fake meat crap, its all tofu and stuff like that, tastes like crap.. go vego if you want but its a big thing to do, you really have to be committed to doing it.. for protein alternatives greens, seeds, cereals, pasta, nuts, and you can get vegetarian protein shakes...

[Emo_Kid]

Now, Here is my Topic!
-I am a Vegetarian, More specific, I'm a Vegan.
When I was around 11, or 12, my dad made me watch him skin a deer, and the first slice he cut, all of the internal organs fell onto the garage floor. It smelled nasty, looked disgusting, and I puked. After that, I decided to try being a Vegetarian. Ate lots of salad and eggs, as well as veggie burgers, and lots of greens. I also found myself consuming alot more yogurt than the average person. When I turned 15 or so, I tried Vegan. Had to scratch eggs, yogurt, and ham and cheese from my salad right off my list of things to eat.
I consume plain salads, some beans and plants, and still my veggie burgers.
I also live off of candy, gum, and potato chips, but I have a high metabolism so fat foods don't really affect me.
-Being a Vegetarian/Vegan is no shame at all. In fact, it seems like it's more saving and caring to the planet. More animals for site seeing and then maybe half our animals today wouldn't be endagered. People act like they can't survive without meat. I for one know I can, and know alot of people can. Actually, everyone can. It isn't going to kill you instead of eating 4 hamburgers, try eating a salad, with a fruit cup or yogurt and maybe a little snack as a side dish.
I honestly don't think it's a problem. Then maybe the world wouldn't be so fat and lazy because more people would be tempted to garden more, and eat healthier food products.

[chudders]

Correction. Being healthy is about a balanced diet. Anyway, if you eat meat, there is no shame. We simply eat too MUCH meat generally as a society, causing farmers to be stressed therefore taking down the priorities of the animals. If we simply ate as much meat as the eatwell plate says, the cruelty would end and methods would be humane. Also, if everyone became vegetarian, plant life would be stressed even more so. Life on earth is all about balance, so having an omnivorical lifestyle is no problem.
Chudd