3D Printed Gun

Talk about serious issues here!
User avatar
Flobalob
FWG Mod
Posts: 1055
Joined: 14 Oct 2012, 19:12
Location: In a toaster. Long story.
Contact:

3D Printed Gun

Postby Flobalob » 07 May 2013, 15:22

"The world's first gun made with 3D printer technology has been successfully fired in the US.



The controversial group which created the firearm, Defense Distributed, plans to make the blueprints available online.

The group has spent a year trying to create the firearm, which was successfully tested on Saturday at a firing range south of Austin, Texas.

Anti-gun campaigners have criticised the project.

Europe's law enforcement agency said it was monitoring developments.

Victoria Baines, from Europol's cybercrime centre, said that at present criminals were more likely to pursue traditional routes to obtain firearms.

She added, however: "But as time goes on and as this technology becomes more user friendly and more cost effective, it is possible that some of these risks will emerge."

Defense Distributed is headed by Cody Wilson, a 25-year-old law student at the University of Texas.

Mr Wilson said: "I think a lot of people weren't expecting that this could be done."

3D printing has been hailed as the future of manufacturing.

The technology works by building up layer upon layer of material - typically plastic - to build complex solid objects.

The idea is that as the printers become cheaper, instead of buying goods from shops, consumers will instead be able to download designs and print out the items at home.

But as with all new technologies, there are risks as well as benefits.

Personal liberties
The gun was made on a 3D printer that cost $8,000 (£5,140) from the online auction site eBay.

It was assembled from separate printed components made from ABS plastic - only the firing pin was made from metal.

Mr Wilson, who describes himself as a crypto-anarchist, said his plans to make the design available were "about liberty".

He told the BBC: "There is a demand of guns - there just is. There are states all over the world that say you can't own firearms - and that's not true anymore.

"I'm seeing a world where technology says you can pretty much be able to have whatever you want. It's not up to the political players any more."

Asked if he felt any sense of responsibility about whose hands the gun might fall into, he told the BBC: "I recognise the tool might be used to harm other people - that's what the tool is - it's a gun.

"But I don't think that's a reason to not do it - or a reason not to put it out there."

Gun control
To make the gun, Mr Wilson received a manufacturing and seller's licence from the US Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives (ATF).

Donna Sellers, from the ATF, told BBC News that the 3D-printed gun, as long as it was not a National Firearms Act weapon (an automatic gun, for example), was legal in the US.

She said: "[In the US] a person can manufacture a firearm for their own use. However, if they engage in the business of manufacture to sell a gun, they need a licence."

Amid America's ongoing gun debate in the wake of the shootings at Sandy Hook Elementary School in Newtown, Connecticut, US congressman Steve Israel recently called for a ban on 3D guns under the Undetectable Firearms Act.

Groups looking to tighten US gun laws have also expressed concern.

Leah Gunn Barrett, from New Yorkers Against Gun Violence, has said: "These guns could fall into the hands of people who should not have guns - criminals, people who are seriously mentally ill, people who are convicted of domestic violence, even children."

3D printing technology has already been used by some criminal organisations to create card readers - "skimmers" - that are inserted into bank machines.

Many law enforcement agencies around the world now have people dedicated to monitoring cybercrime and emerging technologies such as 3D printers.

Ms Baines from Europol said: "What we know is that technology proceeds much more quickly than we expect it to. So by getting one step ahead of the technological developments, we hope and believe we will be able to get one step ahead of the criminals as well.""


Oh seriously dude what the hell.
September Quiz - 2ndImage
October Contest - 2ndImage
Official most likely to become the new Kim Kardashian - Image#Betterthanyou

User avatar
Dr Frook
FWG Mod
Posts: 9039
Joined: 28 Aug 2009, 05:35
Location: freaksville
Contact:

Re: 3D Printed Gun

Postby Dr Frook » 08 May 2013, 01:05

yeah I read this. Scary thing indeed, but inevitable. It is going to get easier and easier to get a gun. I think gun manufacturers should also worry, as this could result in a loss of business for them.
The BUGBLATTER BEAST HAS SPOKEN, ALL HAIL THE BLATTERER!
Image

User avatar
ghost 9
FWG King
Posts: 824
Joined: 04 Apr 2010, 18:33
Location: In your walls. O-o
Contact:

Re: 3D Printed Gun

Postby ghost 9 » 08 May 2013, 10:57

So they're going to put a blueprint for a gun online, and make it availible to everyone, including potential drug dealers and the like, so the issue of guns increases as a problem...?

They are SOOOOOOOO smart. O_O
"The costs of action are far less than the costs of inaction."

"If you don't want to be forgotten as soon as you're dead, write something worth reading, or do something worth writing"

User avatar
Hitokiri
FWG King
Posts: 744
Joined: 14 Jan 2010, 11:56

Re: 3D Printed Gun

Postby Hitokiri » 08 May 2013, 12:36

The blue prints of many different guns (actually all of them) are online today.

The problem is that not many people can make one (mechanical means).
And specialised machinery costs lots of money, takes up alot of space,...Effectively making it so that not many people can.
Unless you are a (very) good metal worker.

The problem is that it's 3D printing, and suddenly it's less expensive, and open to lots more people.
Even if the blueprints are not availlable, if you know how the printing works, and you invest some time in it, I'm sure you can make it.

I feel that 3D printing (for private people) should be regulated.


Do keep in mind:
3D printers work with plastics, plastic isn't exactly fit to house the gas pressures when firing a gun.
So I think it's a very dangerous weapon, in all directions of the gun.
Image

User avatar
Flobalob
FWG Mod
Posts: 1055
Joined: 14 Oct 2012, 19:12
Location: In a toaster. Long story.
Contact:

Re: 3D Printed Gun

Postby Flobalob » 08 May 2013, 16:19

Hitokiri wrote:The blue prints of many different guns (actually all of them) are online today.

The problem is that not many people can make one (mechanical means).
And specialised machinery costs lots of money, takes up alot of space,...Effectively making it so that not many people can.
Unless you are a (very) good metal worker.

The problem is that it's 3D printing, and suddenly it's less expensive, and open to lots more people.
Even if the blueprints are not availlable, if you know how the printing works, and you invest some time in it, I'm sure you can make it.

I feel that 3D printing (for private people) should be regulated.


Do keep in mind:
3D printers work with plastics, plastic isn't exactly fit to house the gas pressures when firing a gun.
So I think it's a very dangerous weapon, in all directions of the gun.

The guy in the video seemed to be fine.

I think that you should need a licence to have one of these aswell.
September Quiz - 2ndImage
October Contest - 2ndImage
Official most likely to become the new Kim Kardashian - Image#Betterthanyou

User avatar
Dr Frook
FWG Mod
Posts: 9039
Joined: 28 Aug 2009, 05:35
Location: freaksville
Contact:

Re: 3D Printed Gun

Postby Dr Frook » 09 May 2013, 00:18

ghost 9 wrote:So they're going to put a blueprint for a gun online, and make it availible to everyone, including potential drug dealers and the like, so the issue of guns increases as a problem...?

They are SOOOOOOOO smart. O_O


there's no stopping it from happening. So stupid, but nothing anyone can do about it. I think a 3D printer sells for $8000 on ebay. At that price every crim and anyone else can get one to start up their own gun printing biz. Not sure how the world will handle this.
The BUGBLATTER BEAST HAS SPOKEN, ALL HAIL THE BLATTERER!
Image

User avatar
Shadow00

Re: 3D Printed Gun

Postby Shadow00 » 09 May 2013, 02:23

I'd worry more about replicas. You know, it's easier to print stuff like keys etc that way.
And you know what that means.
Hide to keys, or you getting robbed.


Return to “Serious Discussion”

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 6 guests