Edward Snowden: Good or bad guy?

[Shadow00]

I think that leaking information about mass surveillance was a really good deed myself.
Then again, he might cause some serious damage to several countries.
So, your opinions?

[Dr Frook]

criminal. Should be sent back to the US so that he can be brought to trial.

of course the US government uses surveillance. I would have been shocked unconscious if I found out they didnt. How naive is the world? We're only finding out something that is obvious and needs to happen. It's called gathering intelligence. Every country does it. In particular the countries Snowden wants to run to. how f*ing ironic. ooooh the US gov is sooo evil, I'd better run to a country that treats it citizens 100x worse. What a joke - the man has no honor. Send him back or get a US assassin to deal with him.

the end.

[GarthVader449]

Who cares if people are lsitening to your phone calls and reading e-mails etc... If you have nothing to hide, does it really matter? And the fact that we were doing it isn't a surprise, they are an intelligence service. What else are they meant to do, not alot.

[Shadow00]

But what if we've really gone overboard with sacrificing privacy for the sake of security?
Even Franklin warned us not to do that. And that was more try much a century ago.
Would we really want to have all our lives as records? If yes, well, long live Orwell.

[Shadowstar1922]

He's a Good Guy.

America has been violating homeland rights, rules, and laws, and international rights, rules, and laws since the 1950's, and we need hard proof of it to clarify it.

He didn't do anything wrong. He's serving the people.

He's a good guy.

It's the Government, that is violating constitutional right after constitutional right, which is intolerable. And, the US Government is reacting way too much. They went so far as to violate Bolivia's international rights by denying the Bolivian President's guaranteed safe travel by the United Nations because they thought Snowden was on that plane, which was highly illogical if you looked at the times of the plane. US basically forced France, Spain, and Portugal to cut off the Bolivian plane, and made Austria attempt to search the plane.

Completely disgusted.

He did nothing wrong.

The Government, is the one who messed up.

[GarthVader449]

Why doesit matter so much that we are being so called "spy-ed" on. And this lastest intel on a possible attack on western countries must hace come from some intelligence gather technique. If you have nothing to hide, it really doesn't matter.

Also, if every-one who worked in the inteligence service spoke up as soon as a rule was broken a law was bent(Not brocken), there wouldn't be a succesful service.

I bet if they stopped this, "invading of privacy", and there was a bad terriost attack, which was later found out could have been prevented if that persons phone was aloowed to be accessed, but wasn't because it was invading his privacy. People who had been affected in some-way, would want privacy to be invaded for national security.

[GarthVader449]

Why doesit matter so much that we are being so called "spy-ed" on. And this lastest intel on a possible attack on western countries must hace come from some intelligence gather technique. If you have nothing to hide, it really doesn't matter.

Also, if every-one who worked in the inteligence service spoke up as soon as a rule was broken a law was bent(Not brocken), there wouldn't be a succesful service.

I bet if they stopped this, "invading of privacy", and there was a bad terriost attack, which was later found out could have been prevented if that persons phone was aloowed to be accessed, but wasn't because it was invading his privacy. People who had been affected in some-way, would want privacy to be invaded for national security.

[Shadowstar1922]

Reasons why it's bad for US citizens to be spied on.

1) We're protected by one of the many ammendments in the US Constitution, that gurantees our right to privacy. US Government violates it, and that is well, bad. xD That's our right.
2) If the US can spy on us, they can control us in many ways that probably didn't come up in your mind. the Government could do what ever they please, and if people rise up to oppose, they can politically embarass them with things they have discovered about that person and make them shut up. They can, essentially, black mail them. This allows the government to just walk over people and do whatever they want. It's an important thing we are guaranteed our constitutional rights, which they violate every single day.

For example, say I'm married to this man, Jack, and I'm 38 or whatever, and he's around the same age too. US Government cracks down on Freedom of Speech, and since I am a Socialist, I organize a small party and essentially protest over the internet, in the streets, commercials, etc. But, I've been cheating on Jack with this woman named Melissa. Now, I obviously don't want Jack to know. So, my Socialist Party is getting pretty powerful with protecting Americans the right to freedom of speech, and the Government decides to spy on me and they find out I've been having an affair. They can use that to publicly embarrass me, tell the citizens, "Is this the kind of leader you want? Someone who ruins what it means to be in a marriage with someone?" Or something like that. And, on tops of it, my marriage is ruin, Jack breaks up with me, and my political career is also ruined. Now, no one is around the protect freedom of speech.

And I know, this is big, but there's these little things everyone does on the internet, or even in their public lives that would be deemed as weird and if you stand up against the Government, while they have this power to know everything you do, they can publicly and politically embarrass and ruin your career and your social life.

You can't give the Government that kind of power, that is unacceptable. That's why we were given that right in the first place.

Every right we were given to by our founding fathers and future fathers before America got corrupt, were given to us for a reason and if the Government is given the chance, can abuse it so horribly.

[GarthVader449]

Reasons why it's bad for US citizens to be spied on.

1) We're protected by one of the many ammendments in the US Constitution, that gurantees our right to privacy. US Government violates it, and that is well, bad. xD That's our right.
2) If the US can spy on us, they can control us in many ways that probably didn't come up in your mind. the Government could do what ever they please, and if people rise up to oppose, they can politically embarass them with things they have discovered about that person and make them shut up. They can, essentially, black mail them. This allows the government to just walk over people and do whatever they want. It's an important thing we are guaranteed our constitutional rights, which they violate every single day.

For example, say I'm married to this man, Jack, and I'm 38 or whatever, and he's around the same age too. US Government cracks down on Freedom of Speech, and since I am a Socialist, I organize a small party and essentially protest over the internet, in the streets, commercials, etc. But, I've been cheating on Jack with this woman named Melissa. Now, I obviously don't want Jack to know. So, my Socialist Party is getting pretty powerful with protecting Americans the right to freedom of speech, and the Government decides to spy on me and they find out I've been having an affair. They can use that to publicly embarrass me, tell the citizens, "Is this the kind of leader you want? Someone who ruins what it means to be in a marriage with someone?" Or something like that. And, on tops of it, my marriage is ruin, Jack breaks up with me, and my political career is also ruined. Now, no one is around the protect freedom of speech.

And I know, this is big, but there's these little things everyone does on the internet, or even in their public lives that would be deemed as weird and if you stand up against the Government, while they have this power to know everything you do, they can publicly and politically embarrass and ruin your career and your social life.

You can't give the Government that kind of power, that is unacceptable. That's why we were given that right in the first place.

Every right we were given to by our founding fathers and future fathers before America got corrupt, were given to us for a reason and if the Government is given the chance, can abuse it so horribly.

For example, it's pretty poor. You cheated! Thats your fault, and if you do regret it you should have said to partner. So, there I have no sympathy, but if they got that information in the intrests of national security. They shouldn't ever publish it. Ever. That info was gained in saving lives it shouldn't be used agaist someone.

The Govt. also has a right to protect it's people, by whatever means possibly.

[Angel]

Ok I'm sorry but he is absolute scum.
Why not just tell them where we will be hardest hit and send them over with more plane hijackers?
Lets just have 9/11 all over again.
NO...He is an idiot!
People think the government is getting too nosy with our information but how do you think they are protecting us huh? If they weren't so "nosy" then how do you expect them to be able to keep us safe? Maybe I'm just "uneducated" on the matter, but until they come to my house and demand me to give them my guns, my drivers license and all my things for absolutely NO reason, I'm going to be fine with them being so "nosy".
Edward Snowden deserves to die...BUT he should be brought back to America to suffer the consequences first.