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Russia invades Ukraine

Postby Dr Frook » 29 Aug 2014, 22:57

Russia is basically treating Ukraine as the US treats other countries - do as they like to meet their own objectives. They've been supporting the rebels and now are giving on the ground help to annex some more land from Ukraine. Russia should leave Ukraine alone, as the US should get the hell out of the numerous countries it is currently involved in.

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Re: Russia invades Ukraine

Postby Toady » 31 Aug 2014, 05:23

Well, other countries give us permission to plant bases on their land. Otherwise, it's because we're at war or helping out an ally. And I am never for war, but something needs to be done about Russia or it will escalate there very quickly. They haven't listened to the UN sanctions and they certainly won't listen to any wrist slaps they're given. If they try to gain the upper hand, I say break it.
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Re: Russia invades Ukraine

Postby Shadowstar1922 » 11 Sep 2014, 20:31

Toady wrote:Well, other countries give us permission to plant bases on their land. Otherwise, it's because we're at war or helping out an ally. And I am never for war, but something needs to be done about Russia or it will escalate there very quickly. They haven't listened to the UN sanctions and they certainly won't listen to any wrist slaps they're given. If they try to gain the upper hand, I say break it.

A majority of the time nations give us permission to establish military bases in foreign countries is either through intimidation, economic threats, or for the most part, reshuffling/overthrowing/manipulating their governments for them to later let us establish said bases.

Now with Ukraine, and a lot of people overlook this which is incredibly disgusting, is the fact that the new "Republic" of Ukraine are fucking Neo-Nazis that have burned down Trade Union Buildings with "socialists" and "liberals" and russians, and they've killed Jews too.

Russia is bad, but Nazis are waaaay worse. I'd like to see Russia overthrow the neo-nazi runned government.
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Re: Russia invades Ukraine

Postby Shadow00 » 12 Sep 2014, 00:43

Shadowstar1922 wrote:
Toady wrote:Well, other countries give us permission to plant bases on their land. Otherwise, it's because we're at war or helping out an ally. And I am never for war, but something needs to be done about Russia or it will escalate there very quickly. They haven't listened to the UN sanctions and they certainly won't listen to any wrist slaps they're given. If they try to gain the upper hand, I say break it.

A majority of the time nations give us permission to establish military bases in foreign countries is either through intimidation, economic threats, or for the most part, reshuffling/overthrowing/manipulating their governments for them to later let us establish said bases.

Now with Ukraine, and a lot of people overlook this which is incredibly disgusting, is the fact that the new "Republic" of Ukraine are fucking Neo-Nazis that have burned down Trade Union Buildings with "socialists" and "liberals" and russians, and they've killed Jews too.

Russia is bad, but Nazis are waaaay worse. I'd like to see Russia overthrow the neo-nazi runned government.

Agree about part #1 but I believe I've said this before, someone's "group", (in this case neo-nazis) has absolutely nothing to do with the current situation.
If the peeps behind the government had decided to make Communists or Jihadists or the whole line-up of the Ukrainian christian church be the people governing, the outcome would still be the same. Sure, Jews wouldn't die, but others would.
The point is not the means here (in other words the party that's being manipulated as a puppets government, but the result that party is heading towards (possible new effing multi-country war), which IMO is far worse than the fact that the guys are neonazis


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