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Why We Still Need Feminism

Postby Tycoon » 09 Nov 2014, 18:40

I believe for many reasons that the world we live in today still needs feminism. No matter whereabouts in the world, we still need it. Even in western cultures.
Some people disagree - and here's where we can debate why feminism is or isn't needed.
For example, women's positions of power, the way in which men are treated when they are feminine in some aspect, and the way in which women are treated as opposed to the way in which men are treated in similar settings.
This is quite a wide topic to discuss, so before creating my first post below,
I'm posting a few definitions of words so as to hope for less confusion. I'll add more as I see fit. I get these from typing "define ____" into google and copying the definition word for word from the google site result

feminism: noun
the advocacy of women's rights on the ground of the equality of the sexes.
feminist: noun
a person who supports feminism.
feminist: adjective
relating to or supporting feminism.
misogyny: noun
dislike of, contempt for, or ingrained prejudice against women
misandry: noun
dislike of, contempt for, or ingrained prejudice against men
misandrist: noun
a person who dislikes, despises, or is strongly prejudiced against men.
discrimination: noun
the unjust or prejudicial treatment of different categories of people, especially on the grounds of race, age, or sex.
harassment: noun
aggressive pressure or intimidation.
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Re: Why We Still Need Feminism

Postby Tycoon » 09 Nov 2014, 19:54


This is the video of accounts of street harassment or things that are generally not okay
Before you say - no, she isn't being complimented, especially when someone just says damn or if they yell.

compliment: noun
a polite expression of praise or admiration.

Your thoughts? Would this have happened to a man wearing the same outfit?
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Re: Why We Still Need Feminism

Postby Rainshard » 09 Nov 2014, 20:01

Tycoon Witch wrote:

This is the video of accounts of street harassment or things that are generally not okay
Before you say - no, she isn't being complimented, especially when someone just says damn or if they yell.

compliment: noun
a polite expression of praise or admiration.

Your thoughts? Would this have happened to a man wearing the same outfit?


Yes I do agree that women experience street harassment but men do too. Feminism is a thing needed in some situations, but gender inequality can be experienced by men. Many believe men cannot be raped by a women, custody rights for fathers, abortion laws for fathers etc. To argue my point here is a video of a man experiencing street harassment.

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Re: Why We Still Need Feminism

Postby The Divine Potato » 09 Nov 2014, 20:09


That literally popped up after the video, at first I thought it was satire but then I realized a good few good points. As the guy in the video puts them.
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Re: Why We Still Need Feminism

Postby The Divine Potato » 09 Nov 2014, 20:13

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8hSjSKJzI3I&list=UU9kMnSZQd53hE-1sb1f9sdA[/youtube]

Also I found this from my ol' pal Buckley
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Re: Why We Still Need Feminism

Postby Tycoon » 09 Nov 2014, 20:26

this guy starts off his video basically saying he doesn't think the woman was harassed and he's from a prank channel or something so i was a bit sceptical to start

the first girl just slightly gestures which wouldn't be polite but wouldn't be harassment, the shouting is not ok. asking someone for their number in a bar because the person is hot would seem less inappropriate, am i wrong? I've never been in a club or bar or anything so excuse if that's wrong.

but i noticed while walking, he himself 'checks out' a woman in a similar manner to others in his video - by looking her over

yeah this is wrong, and it shouldn't happen to anyone

feminism isn't just about women's rights its also about gender equality
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Re: Why We Still Need Feminism

Postby Tycoon » 09 Nov 2014, 20:42

it's true to say she doesn't have to wear tight jeans
but she shouldn't have to limit her style choices so she doesn't get harassed
no, the function of tight jeans isn't to attract a sexual partner - at least not for every girl, some people like how they look in them, and might not be interested in sex at all
the brad pitt point - yes it wouldn't be harassment, but they'd be excited because they even saw brad pitt??

again, he's mislabelled misandrists as feminists - feminists aren't men hating pigs. if they were, there wouldn't be male feminists.
this guy is also assuming everyone wants sex and it makes the video more difficult for people uninterested in sex such as myself
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Re: Why We Still Need Feminism

Postby Shadow00 » 09 Nov 2014, 21:05

Sorry but your dictionary is from the 1800s. Yeah compliments used to be polite and dont have yelling in them.
If youre really annoyed by that, being a feminist isnt your #1 problem

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Re: Why We Still Need Feminism

Postby Tycoon » 09 Nov 2014, 21:09

Shadow00 wrote:Sorry but your dictionary is from the 1800s. Yeah compliments used to be polite and dont have yelling in them.
If youre really annoyed by that, being a feminist isnt your #1 problem


i wouldn't take yelling in the street as a compliment nowadays
and being a feminist isn't a problem for me, period
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Re: Why We Still Need Feminism

Postby Shadow00 » 09 Nov 2014, 21:14

Tycoon Witch wrote:
Shadow00 wrote:Sorry but your dictionary is from the 1800s. Yeah compliments used to be polite and dont have yelling in them.
If youre really annoyed by that, being a feminist isnt your #1 problem


i wouldn't take yelling in the street as a compliment nowadays
and being a feminist isn't a problem for me, period

Difference in opinions, obviously.


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