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HAPPY INTERNATIONAL WOMEN'S DAY!

Postby Shadowstar1922 » 08 Mar 2015, 20:45

i know this day doesn't get celebrated in most western nations, but its a serious day in some others, and as a socialist, i take pride in this day and the founder of it, Klara Zetkin. here is an a brief article about her

http://www.theguardian.com/theguardian/ ... womens-day

The 8th of March marks International Women's Day, a day with over a century of history and change behind it.

Originally known as International Working Women's Day, its roots lie in the socialist, rather than feminist, struggle of the early 20th century. Although national days had been celebrated prior to 1911, the 18 March of that year marked the first International day, following a proposal from German communist Clara Zetkin.

Zetkin had been involved with the socialist movement in Germany since the 1870's, and her name frequently came up in Manchester Guardian reports on the annual International Socialist and Trade Unions Congress. She was also a fervent campaigner for women's rights and universal suffrage, although, as this profile by Shelley Holland, published in the Guardian in 1992, illustrates, Zetkin believed socialism was the only movement that 'could truly serve the needs of working-class women' - and that feminism was the preserve of the upper and middle-classes.

However, as much as her political views were focussed on class, rather than gender, divisions, reports such as the one below in the Manchester Guardian from 1901 perhaps only served to highlight how women were viewed at the time.

Despite the mention of a 'Niagara of shrill invective,' Zetkin was renowned throughout her career for her passionate oratory skills. She represented the German Communist Party in the Reichstag from 1920 until 1933 (when the party was banned by Hitler). Her election to the Reichstag in 1932 made her its oldest member, and tradition dictated she opened the parliamentary session. She did so with a 40 minute attack on Hitler and the Nazi party.

Clara Zetkin died in 1933. In her obituary (see below), the Manchester Guardian referred to her as the 'grandmother of communism,' yet the legacy of International Women's Day, and her contribution to it, should also be recognised, and celebrated.


long live frau zetkin, grandmother of communism and one of the many faces of 20th century freedom.

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Re: HAPPY INTERNATIONAL WOMEN'S DAY!

Postby Father Anderson » 09 Mar 2015, 22:29

Where's international Men's day?
Or international EVERYBODY day?
Seems kinda shitty to make a day just for women, but not everybody else.
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Re: HAPPY INTERNATIONAL WOMEN'S DAY!

Postby Boxorino » 09 Mar 2015, 22:32

The Baconator wrote:Where's international Men's day?
Or international EVERYBODY day?
Seems kinda shitty to make a day just for women, but not everybody else.


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Re: HAPPY INTERNATIONAL WOMEN'S DAY!

Postby Shadowstar1922 » 09 Mar 2015, 22:49

The Baconator wrote:Where's international Men's day?
Or international EVERYBODY day?
Seems kinda shitty to make a day just for women, but not everybody else.

When men face 10,000-20,000 years of systematic oppression in a majority of societies and civilizations on Earth and then face a 200 year period of being made fun of for demanding equal rights and opportunities, (which still goes on today) i think men will be able to have an International Men's Day with a movement of masculinists.

The very concept of an International Women's Day is to acknowledge all of the hard work that working women, whether they be politicians, soldiers, laborers, etc have put into nations who go under a "total war" and where society's classes between civilian and soldier do not exist. Many nations, normally former communist and social democratic nations give the day off or a half day to women with full pay or simply the day off to kind of pay back the wrong doings men have done to women. That is the point of the day, is to recognize the contributions women have given to extreme events in certain nation's history, because as we all know, they don't get much of it.

Its completely idiotic to theoretically give equal opportunities to a minority and/or group of people who have been systematically oppressed, murdered, and exploited, and the minute we think everything is all equal, we start acting like all of the atrocities against that group did not happened and we tell them to get over it, like some people complaining about the black rights movements and how people tell black people to get over slavery. Black people did not gain equal rights nor opportunity the minute slavery was abolished, nor did women gain equal rights nor opportunity the minute they were given the right to vote.
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Re: HAPPY INTERNATIONAL WOMEN'S DAY!

Postby The Divine Potato » 09 Mar 2015, 22:57

In all honesty I teat this day like I would treat any other day, with apathy. Just like you treat any form of 'minority' in our world where diversity makes it interesting.
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Re: HAPPY INTERNATIONAL WOMEN'S DAY!

Postby Father Anderson » 09 Mar 2015, 23:00

Shadowstar1922 wrote:
The Baconator wrote:Where's international Men's day?
Or international EVERYBODY day?
Seems kinda shitty to make a day just for women, but not everybody else.

When men face 10,000-20,000 years of systematic oppression in a majority of societies and civilizations on Earth and then face a 200 year period of being made fun of for demanding equal rights and opportunities, (which still goes on today) i think men will be able to have an International Men's Day with a movement of masculinists.

The very concept of an International Women's Day is to acknowledge all of the hard work that working women, whether they be politicians, soldiers, laborers, etc have put into nations who go under a "total war" and where society's classes between civilian and soldier do not exist. Many nations, normally former communist and social democratic nations give the day off or a half day to women with full pay or simply the day off to kind of pay back the wrong doings men have done to women. That is the point of the day, is to recognize the contributions women have given to extreme events in certain nation's history, because as we all know, they don't get much of it.

Its completely idiotic to theoretically give equal opportunities to a minority and/or group of people who have been systematically oppressed, murdered, and exploited, and the minute we think everything is all equal, we start acting like all of the atrocities against that group did not happened and we tell them to get over it, like some people complaining about the black rights movements and how people tell black people to get over slavery. Black people did not gain equal rights nor opportunity the minute slavery was abolished, nor did women gain equal rights nor opportunity the minute they were given the right to vote.


this is the most retarded load of fuckshit I have ever taken the time to even read, and I've seen some stupid stuff.

Women have gone through stuff, yes.
Men have too. A lot of times by other men.
Either way, just because women were oppressed doesn't make them special, jews were oppressed a LOT in Egypt, and during WW2. There's no Jew day?
There's no African American day?
This holiday is stupid, and so is any other holiday like it, you people always keep saying 'everything should be equal' blah blah blah fucking blah.
Even if there IS holidays for all of the occasions I have mentioned, and since you're such a political activist, why haven't you shed any light on THOSE holidays, should they exist.

It's pretty sad seeing all this sympathy for women, and no sympathy for the other gender, or other races/peoples/religions
Women shouldn't get a special day because they weren't treated right.
You don't see Raymond from Everybody Loves Raymond demand a holiday for being oppressed by his wife, now do you? I understand he's a fictional character, but it was a good example in my honest opinion.

Women are not special, men are not special. let's just stick to shit like Mardi Gras.
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Re: HAPPY INTERNATIONAL WOMEN'S DAY!

Postby Shadowstar1922 » 09 Mar 2015, 23:25

The Baconator wrote:
Shadowstar1922 wrote:
The Baconator wrote:Where's international Men's day?
Or international EVERYBODY day?
Seems kinda shitty to make a day just for women, but not everybody else.

When men face 10,000-20,000 years of systematic oppression in a majority of societies and civilizations on Earth and then face a 200 year period of being made fun of for demanding equal rights and opportunities, (which still goes on today) i think men will be able to have an International Men's Day with a movement of masculinists.

The very concept of an International Women's Day is to acknowledge all of the hard work that working women, whether they be politicians, soldiers, laborers, etc have put into nations who go under a "total war" and where society's classes between civilian and soldier do not exist. Many nations, normally former communist and social democratic nations give the day off or a half day to women with full pay or simply the day off to kind of pay back the wrong doings men have done to women. That is the point of the day, is to recognize the contributions women have given to extreme events in certain nation's history, because as we all know, they don't get much of it.

Its completely idiotic to theoretically give equal opportunities to a minority and/or group of people who have been systematically oppressed, murdered, and exploited, and the minute we think everything is all equal, we start acting like all of the atrocities against that group did not happened and we tell them to get over it, like some people complaining about the black rights movements and how people tell black people to get over slavery. Black people did not gain equal rights nor opportunity the minute slavery was abolished, nor did women gain equal rights nor opportunity the minute they were given the right to vote.


this is the most retarded load of fuckshit I have ever taken the time to even read, and I've seen some stupid stuff.
so debunk it?? comment?? point out why I'm wrong?? All you're doing is complaining about other minorities below this comment. I guarantee if I ever made a topic celebrating those minorities you'd complain about it like you are now.

Women have gone through stuff, yes.
Men have too. A lot of times by other men.
the descrimination and exploitation men have gone through does not even come close to how much women have gone through throughout history.
Either way, just because women were oppressed doesn't make them special, jews were oppressed a LOT in Egypt, and during WW2. There's no Jew day?
There is no historical record stating the Jews were enslaved in Egypt. The claimed period is only stated in the Bible and the Torah and Quran, and the time period was during Egypt's peak and when they recorded everything. Also, there is a Jewish Day of Remembrance about their descrimination in the Holocaust. It is on April/May 27th and is shifted a day later if it is on the Holy Day of the Sabbath.
There's no African American day?
The African American Day Parade is held every September sine 1968, especially in Harlem celebrating the accomplishment of racial equality and recognizing the systematic oppression blacks have faced in America. Also, the African Union holds many events celebrating African pride and unity as a whole, usually in their efforts to keep the continent of Africa independent from foreign manipulation. Also, in America (not sure about other nations) there is Black History Month where in February we celebrate and honor the suffering of blacks as well as remember famous black poets, authors, musicians and other artistic or cultural faces
This holiday is stupid, and so is any other holiday like it, you people always keep saying 'everything should be equal' blah blah blah fucking blah.
Everyone should be equal because there is no logical explanation why certain people are discriminated based off of traits and attributes they are given at birth and hated for something they cannot control.
Even if there IS holidays for all of the occasions I have mentioned, and since you're such a political activist, why haven't you shed any light on THOSE holidays, should they exist.
I do. Maybe not on here, but I do at my school. I hold a march throughout the hallways for celebration of every group of people who have ever faced discrimination. Jews, Christians, Muslims, Buddhists, Gays, Straights, White people, black people, asians, women, men, abused spouses etc. If I cannot do the hallway march (which most likely happens) then the principle gives me 5 minutes on the speaker to say a couple of paragraphs I have written or a short article i've found online)

It's pretty sad seeing all this sympathy for women, and no sympathy for the other gender, or other races/peoples/religions
There is, and many people around the world and throughout history had shed light on them. Just because you do not know about them does not mean they do not exist.
Women shouldn't get a special day because they weren't treated right.
Yes they do?? Just like every other oppressed minority and/or group of people???
You don't see Raymond from Everybody Loves Raymond demand a holiday for being oppressed by his wife, now do you?
There are many, maaanny organizations, both state runned, private, both international and domestic where we celebrate and honor domestic violence in relationships. Though there is no pinpoint day to celebrate and honor them, many states and cities, including my state Massachusetts and my city Worcester work vigorously to supply aid to victims of such abuse and we provide security for those in danger.

I understand he's a fictional character, but it was a good example in my honest opinion.
no problem, it was a good example if there need be one where in society we think its okay for men/women to use specific methods of controlling their significant other where they can be praised, honored, or sometimes encouraged to do so. Domestic violence is a real issue.
Women are not special, men are not special. let's just stick to shit like Mardi Gras.
nobody is special, but that doesn't mean they shouldn't get days to honor their contributions. International Men's day is what, November 21st???? If I'm not mistaken, Malta started doing it in 1983?? idk someone find me a date for that
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Re: HAPPY INTERNATIONAL WOMEN'S DAY!

Postby Shadowstar1922 » 09 Mar 2015, 23:49

For the Remainder of the week I will be posting stuff about cool women doing cool stuff, specifically science stuff after this one. These women are 10 revolutionaries you probably have not heard of in history class and the full article is here! http://www.filmsforaction.org/articles/10-female-revolutionaries-that-you-probably-didnt-learn-about-in-history-class/

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Nadezhda Krupskaya

Many people know Nadezhda Krupskaya simply as Vladimir Lenin’s wife, but Nadezhda was a Bolshevik revolutionary and politician in her own right. She was heavily involved in a variety of political activities, including serving as the Soviet Union’s Deputy Minister of Education from 1929 until her death in 1939, and a number of educational pursuits. Prior to the revolution, she served as secretary of the Iskra group, managing continent-wide correspondence, much of which had to be decoded. After the revolution, she dedicated her life to improving education opportunities for workers and peasants, for example by striving to make libraries available to everyone.

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Constance Markievicz

Constance Markievicz (née Gore-Booth) was an Anglo-Irish Countess, Sinn Féin and Fianna Fáil politician, revolutionary nationalist, suffragette and socialist. She participated in many Irish independence efforts, including the Easter Rising of 1916, in which she had a leadership role. During the Rising, she wounded a British sniper before being forced to retreat and surrender. After, she was the only woman out of 70 to be put into solitary confinement. She was sentenced to death, but was pardoned based on her gender. Interestingly, the prosecuting counsel claimed that she begged “I am only a woman, you cannot shoot a woman”, while court records show she said “I do wish your lot had the decency to shoot me”. Constance was one of the first women in the world to hold a cabinet position (Minister for Labour of the Irish Republic, 1919–1922), and she was also the first woman elected to the British House of Commons (December 1918)—a position which she rejected due to the Sinn Féin abstentionist policy.


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Petra Herrera

During the Mexican Revolution, female soldiers known as soldaderaswent into combat along with the men although they often faced abuse. One of the most well-known of the soldaderas was Petra Herrera, who disguised her gender and went by the name “Pedro Herrera”. As Pedro, she established her reputation by demonstrating exemplary leadership (and blowing up bridges) and was able to reveal her gender in time. She participated in the second battle of Torreón on May 30, 1914 along with about 400 other women, even being named by some as being deserving of full credit for the battle. Unfortunately, Pancho Villa was likely unwilling to give credit to a woman and did not promote her to General. In response, Petra left Villa’s forces and formed her own all-woman brigade.


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Nwanyeruwa

Nwanyeruwa, an Igbo woman in Nigeria, sparked a short war that is often called the first major challenge to British authority in West Africa during the colonial period. On November 18, 1929, an argument between Nwanyeruwa and a census man named Mark Emereuwa broke out after he told her to “count her goats, sheep and people.” Understanding this to mean she would be taxed (traditionally, women were not charged taxes), she discussed the situation with the other women and protests, deemed the Women’s War, began to occur over the course of two months. About 25,000 women all over the region were involved, protesting both the looming tax changes and the unrestricted power of the Warrant Chiefs. In the end, women’s position were greatly improved, with the British dropping their tax plans, as well as the forced resignation of many Warrant Chiefs.


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Lakshmi Sehgal

Lakshmi Sahgal, colloquially known as “Captain Lakshmi”, was a revolutionary of the Indian independence movement, an officer of the Indian National Army, and later, the Minister of Women’s Affairs in the Azad Hind government. In the 40s, she commanded the Rani of Jhansi Regiment, an all-women regiment that aimed to overthrow British Raj in colonial India. The regiment was one of the very few all-female combat regiments of WWII on any side, and was named after another renowned female revolutionary in Indian history, Rani Lakshmibai, who was one of the leading figures of the Indian Rebellion of 1857.


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Sophie Scholl

German revolutionary Sophie Scholl was a founding member of the non-violent anti-Nazi resistance group The White Rose, which advocated for active resistance to Hitler’s regime through an anonymous leaflet and graffiti campaign. In February of 1943, she and other members were arrested for handing out leaflets at the University of Munich and sentenced to death by guillotine. Copies of the leaflet, retitled The Manifesto of the Students of Munich, were smuggled out of the country and millions were air-dropped over Germany by Allied forces later that year.


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Blanca Canales

Blanca Canales was a Puerto Rican Nationalist who helped organize the Daughters of Freedom, the women’s branch of the Puerto Rican Nationalist Party. She was one of the few women in history to have led a revolt against the United States, known as the Jayuya Uprising. In 1948, a severely restricting bill known as the Gag Bill, or Law 53, was introduced that made it a crime to print, publish, sell, or exhibit any material intended to paralyze or destroy the insular government. In response, the Nationalists starting planning armed revolution. On October 30, 1950, Blanca and others took up arms which she had stored in her home and marched into the town of Jayuya, taking over the police station, burning down the post office, cutting the telephone wires, and raising the Puerto Rican flag in defiance of the Gag Law. As a result, the US President declared martial law and ordered Army and Air Force attacks on the town. The Nationalists held on for awhile, but were arrested and sentenced to life in prison after 3 days. Much of Jayuya was destroyed, and the incident was not fairly covered by US media, with the US President even saying it was “an incident between Puerto Ricans.”

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Celia Sanchez

Most people know Fidel Castro and Che Guevara, but fewer people have heard of Celia Sanchez, the woman at the heart of the Cuban Revolution who has even been rumored to be the main decision-maker. After the March 10, 1952 coup, Celia joined the struggle against the Batista government. She was a founder of the 26th of July Movement, leader of combat squads throughout the revolution, controlled group resources, and even made the arrangements for theGranma landing, which transported 82 fighters from Mexico to Cuba in order to overthrow Batista. After the revolution, Celia remained with Castro until her death.

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Kathleen Neal Cleaver

Kathleen Neal Cleaver was a member of the Black Panther Party and the first female member of the Party’s decision-making body. She served as spokesperson and press secretary and organized the national campaign to free the Party’s minister of defense, Huey Newton, who had been jailed. She and other women, such as Angela Davis, made up around 2/3 of the Party at one point, despite the notion that the BPP was overwhelmingly masculine.


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Asmaa Mahfouz

Asmaa Mahfouz is a modern-day revolutionary who is credited with sparking the January 2011 uprising in Egypt through a video blog post encouraging others to join her in protest in Tahrir Square. She is considered one of the leaders of the Egyptian Revolution and is a prominent member of Egypt’s Coalition of the Youth of the Revolution.


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Re: HAPPY INTERNATIONAL WOMEN'S DAY!

Postby Shadow00 » 10 Mar 2015, 00:14

Well still no one here cared for this day, like at all.
I don't really find any meaning to it, same as I don't find any meaning at all about other memorial days.
For example you got 4th of July, we got October 28 and some others, point is they are simply days.
Yeah SOMETHING happened that day many years ago but that's pretty much all that's special about that day.
So you got Valentine's day (a day made for florists and Durex to up their ante in sales apparently). Any reason for it? Nope.
You don't need a reason, a reminder to be romantic, you can do it yourself.
Pretty much the same applies here.
You don't need a day to respect women that did cool things,you can do it on any time of the year. Or not at all.
That's why I consider these kind of events utterly stupid.

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Re: HAPPY INTERNATIONAL WOMEN'S DAY!

Postby Wow_Give_Up_On_Life » 10 Mar 2015, 05:46

Wow Shadowstar how about you go celebrate your women hood . :lol:

I don't really see any important women in this thread. Ten minutes of my time I would rather pay myrespects to greater people such as Socrates, Winston Churchill, Elon Musk or Steve Jobs. In general none of those people accomplished anything in comparison to these icons.

I think i'd rather celebrate my mother honestly. However there is a day for that it's called mothers day.
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