The Digital Magna Carta

[Dr Frook]

this is wot people think it should contain:

1.The Web we want will not let companies pay to control it, and not let governments restrict our right to information

2.The Web we want will allow freedom of speech

3.The Web we want will be free from government censors in all countries

4.The Web we want will not allow any kind of government censorship

5.The Web we want will be available for all those who wish to use it

6.The Web we want will be free from censorship and mass surveillance

7.The Web we want will allow equal access to knowledge, information and current news worldwide

8.The Web we want will have freedom of speech

9.The Web we want will not be censored by the government

10.The Web we want will not sell our personal information and preferences for money, and will make it clearer if the company/Website intends to do so

Your thoughts??

[Flobalob]

Monday was the 800th birthday of the Magna Carta. A boring fact for you.

So what.. We just tell Google we won't use the internet unless they agree to this? That's how the real Magna Carta worked.

Also, side note, like 1 in 3 of those is repeated.

[Wow_Give_Up_On_Life]

However, freedom of speech is always a no-no. It always opens the floodgates for self righteous imbeciles to offend and discriminate people and hide behind 'FREEDOM OF SPEECH FREEDOM OF SPEECH' and that is something that shouldn't be supported imo.

Ironic considering you support Feminism. An ideology that discriminates and offends men.

I disagree with the Digital Magna Carta, I personally believe the minute the internet was turned into a "For Profit" system it was ruined. I think people will need to find solace in other forms of Internet, AKA The Deep Web

[TheKingsHills]

However, freedom of speech is always a no-no. It always opens the floodgates for self righteous imbeciles to offend and discriminate people and hide behind 'FREEDOM OF SPEECH FREEDOM OF SPEECH' and that is something that shouldn't be supported imo.

Ironic considering you support Feminism. An ideology that discriminates and offends men.

I disagree with the Digital Magna Carta, I personally believe the minute the internet was turned into a "For Profit" system it was ruined. I think people will need to find solace in other forms of Internet, AKA The Deep Web

When you talk aboot how the internet was turned into a "For Profit" system are you talking aboot the what...upper 10% of the internet that's accessible to the casual user? Because the Deep Web is what makes up most of the internet as a whole. What you view, unless you personally have a ways to venture out into the deep web or even dark net, is the surface web.
The Deep Web estimated to be a couple hundreds times larger than said surface.
Now, if it's the Deep Web that's not using a "For Profit" system. Then the internet as a whole isn't for profit.
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As for the Freedom of Speech thing, I think what we have right now is a decent system.
Freedom of Speech up to the point that the entity that runs the service you are using allows.
Should there be a universal set of limits to freedom of speech for the internet? No.
I think it's up to the provider of the service to decide on those limits for their said service.
Should all things on the internet be forced to uphold rules for freedom of speech. Any form of freedom of speech? No. I don't personally believe a website should be forced to keep content on their site that goes against their own beliefs.

[Wow_Give_Up_On_Life]

Funny how your behaviour is an exact example of the harmful behaviour freedom of speech will wrongly enshrine into the law. Perhaps instead of resorting to ad hominem for every single argument, you could come up with some real points that may actually garner you some respect. Side note, anyone who even vaguely knows me knows I hate the sect of Feminism that discriminates against men. I'm flattered that you think you know everything about me, but please.

Whoa, I remember when you were cool..... LOL NOT

American Humour, so funny. Anyways.

Funny how your behaviour is an exact example of the harmful behaviour freedom of speech will wrongly enshrine into the law

The thing about having a gigantic safety net is that people won't be able to dish out effective criticism. Of course Hatty is teaching us why Feminists are essentially useless. Notice how she wants to stifle free speech like a Nazi.

Perhaps instead of resorting to ad hominem for every single argument, you could come up with some real points that may actually garner you some respect.

LOL! Look at the rationalization hamster, I think it is you who is using the ad homonym. Anyways, enough with dealing with a dog who can't apply make up properly lets get back to the Serious.

When you talk aboot how the internet was turned into a "For Profit" system are you talking aboot the what...upper 10% of the internet that's accessible to the casual user? Because the Deep Web is what makes up most of the internet as a whole. What you view, unless you personally have a ways to venture out into the deep web or even dark net, is the surface web.
The Deep Web estimated to be a couple hundreds times larger than said surface.
Now, if it's the Deep Web that's not using a "For Profit" system. Then the internet as a whole isn't for profit.

When I log onto a website such as FWG, it knows my IP address, shows advertising everywhere, links to my Facebook etc...etc.... This isn't a positive experience for anybody to have to deal with all this clutter on a glass screen.

The other thing is the internet was better when it had a larger masculine presence, just like how a 76 year old Nobel scientist recently said that women were useless in the laboratory.

Women are a majority on the interwebs, but they haven't figured out the Dark Net yet, unlike most others who have. And the Dark Web has fantastic forums, websites etc that aren't junky like the bloated internet. ( I think part of the reason people got away with so much example Facebook is because women are usually docile and complacent)

Right now we are in a state I would throw the term "Internet rot" where there is just way too much commercial trash clogging up good useful things.

[Wow_Give_Up_On_Life]

Not American. Surprise Surprise.

Yeah that explains why you don't understand humour. Sit relax have a chuckle. I'm surprised your not busy watching Dancing With The Stars.

So an ideology that supports gender equality is useless?

Yes.

It's ad hominem. Since you have both misspelled it and seem to be unaware of what it means,

What a nerd.
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Lastly back to the Magna Carta. I would be willing to wager that in the future there will be an invention that will eclipse the internet. The internet as we know it is a failed frontier. You can tell just from what the Magna Carta tries to encompass. The topics that are presented there aren't useful. And you can see it from the topics they choose.

Most agree that big business is not exactly the optimal thing for the consumer. Yet no mention of anti monopoly laws on this Magna Carta? Most agree that the inconvenience of owning a website URL permanently stunts growth just like it has done in the Music and Movie Industry, yet no mention of a flexible creative content licensing? No mention of the limiting of internet advertising, no mention of the proper legality on the internet.

[TheKingsHills]

Lastly back to the Magna Carta. I would be willing to wager that in the future there will be an invention that will eclipse the internet. The internet as we know it is a failed frontier. You can tell just from what the Magna Carta tries to encompass. The topics that are presented there aren't useful. And you can see it from the topics they choose.

Most agree that big business is not exactly the optimal thing for the consumer. Yet no mention of anti monopoly laws on this Magna Carta? Most agree that the inconvenience of owning a website URL permanently stunts growth just like it has done in the Music and Movie Industry, yet no mention of a flexible creative content licensing? No mention of the limiting of internet advertising, no mention of the proper legality on the internet.

How is the internet by any means a failed frontier?
Also, for anything to eclipse the internet it'd have to be an even larger internet. I don't see the internet going away any time soon. Unless of course something goes wrong, massive solar flares throw us back into the stone age, the world gets nuked, conspiracist theories/end of the world situations.
How do you take something that contains an extreme amount of information, that is accessible to anyone who connects to this thing, and overshadow it? What do you create something that would replace that network of information?
You don't.
You expand onto it, add functionality, repair issues, expand how far out it goes. To go any farther than what we have right now is to have everyone directly connected to this network. Create a digital hive mind.
The internet isn't going to die. If it does die, it'll be because on an internet 2.0
Basically they'll have taken the internet. And improved it. How? I don't know. But that's the only realistic way of killing off the internet through another invention.

Also, the internet is only going laid down deeper into society as time goes on. Smart cities, smart cars, smart homes. The internet of things.
Everything is being connected to the internet. You don't simply kill that.

[Flobalob]

Anything that has roughly 2 billion users each day is not nearly a "failed frontier", in my opinion. You're using it to read this. You've used it to play probably most of the games you've ever played. You've used it to work, socialise etc. probably most days of your life.

And it's still growing, in usage and in purpose. More and more things use the internet is some way shape or form these days, with things like the Cloud becoming commonplace. I disagree that there'll be an invention that will eclipse the internet. In a few years we'll reach a point where if the internet was suddenly taken away from us, it'd have unprecedented economic and social consequences.

That's a pretty successful frontier.

[Rainshard]

Anything that has roughly 2 billion users each day is not nearly a "failed frontier", in my opinion. You're using it to read this. You've used it to play probably most of the games you've ever played. You've used it to work, socialise etc. probably most days of your life.

And it's still growing, in usage and in purpose. More and more things use the internet is some way shape or form these days, with things like the Cloud becoming commonplace. I disagree that there'll be an invention that will eclipse the internet. In a few years we'll reach a point where if the internet was suddenly taken away from us, it'd have unprecedented economic and social consequences.

That's a pretty successful frontier.

10/10

If number 10 goes through, sites like Facebook would seriously need to change.

I agree with Hatty about the freedom of speech one, it should be changed to something along the lines of "Everyone has the right to freedom of speech as long as it does not infringe with another persons rights" because I can already see people hiding behind their "Freedom of Speech" rights when they say something malicious to another person.

[Shadow00]

There are more devices connected to the net at the moment than 3 times the earth's population.
So yeah, the Internet's a thing