The end is nigh for Greece

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The end is nigh for Greece

Postby Dr Frook » 03 Jul 2015, 22:36

All I can say is the people of Greece were silly enough to elect a government that now can't do what it must do because they said they would not do it and this basically dooms everyone in the country. I hope they are happy with the decision they made.

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Re: The end is nigh for Greece

Postby Excalibur » 03 Jul 2015, 23:35

FWG Leader wrote:All I can say is the people of Greece were silly enough to elect a government that now can't do what it must do because they said they would not do it and this basically dooms everyone in the country. I hope they are happy with the decision they made.

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Re: The end is nigh for Greece

Postby Foopzheart » 04 Jul 2015, 06:21

Excalibur wrote:
FWG Leader wrote:All I can say is the people of Greece were silly enough to elect a government that now can't do what it must do because they said they would not do it and this basically dooms everyone in the country. I hope they are happy with the decision they made.

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Re: The end is nigh for Greece

Postby Dr Frook » 04 Jul 2015, 22:15

Greece better vote right today or they are doomed. Their gov are a bunch of idiots.
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Re: The end is nigh for Greece

Postby Foopzheart » 04 Jul 2015, 22:57

let's hope if they are screwed, chris can get out of there
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Re: The end is nigh for Greece

Postby Shadow00 » 04 Jul 2015, 23:36

Lel I won't get out of here soon, I would like to say that the government acted well, for the poorer people at least.
When around 25% of people (57% of youths) are unemployed, and we keep signing new measures to lower the low wages and keep the higher wages intact, then I can say I can only agree with the govt. Voting no to that.
Matter of fact I'm voting no myself tomorrow (technically today on Greece time), although I do believe this is all political games and the decision the people make will hardly influence the outcome.

I do agree the Greek people voted poorly, we shouldn't have voted centre-left, rather extreme-left should be tons better.

Either way though, I've seen all there is to be seen of the yes option, time to see what no gives me, I'm kinda interested

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Re: The end is nigh for Greece

Postby Boxorino » 04 Jul 2015, 23:49

can someone explain what's going on in greece
that was dramatic. still ready 2 die tho!

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Re: The end is nigh for Greece

Postby Shadow00 » 05 Jul 2015, 00:02

Boxorino wrote:can someone explain what's going on in greece

Allow me as a Greek explain THOROUGHLY. REAL THOROUGHLY.

So Greece has been unable to stand up to the standards of the eurozone, much like other southern-ish countries (Italy or Spain for instance). That forced Greece to take loans. Now what the people never learned (both the people of Greece and the people of countries loaning TO Greece) was that those loans were not spent for the Greek people, rather to the banks so they could repay their already pre-existant debts to private corporations of various countries.
What does this mean? A few people got VERY very rich while tons of other people are struggling to pay for the banks' deficit.

Now the problem here is, Greece itself should never have been in the eurozone. That's mainly because it cant handle the level of finance that for example, Germany has with their level of industrial markets. Thus we are forced to borrow more, again to repay the banks. And that's just a vicious cycle going on for 5 years now.

The problem is, we will never be able to pay the ever increasing loans and to be able to at least pay the bank fees, we are forced to take worse and worse measures, lowering wages, lowering g pensions etc..

And thus comes the new leftist govt. That practically denounces this politic of loans to repay banks etc as it believes its going to doom the EU (Which it practically already has), therefore they declined to sign another deal and put forth a referendum for the people to vote whether they want to agree to EU terms or not.

Many believe if its a no we go out of the EU and Euro

I personally don't mind that, the euro is mostly a burden on a country that can't manage itself like a heavy industry like Germany for instance.

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Re: The end is nigh for Greece

Postby Boxorino » 05 Jul 2015, 00:21

Shadow00 wrote:
Boxorino wrote:can someone explain what's going on in greece

Allow me as a Greek explain THOROUGHLY. REAL THOROUGHLY.

So Greece has been unable to stand up to the standards of the eurozone, much like other southern-ish countries (Italy or Spain for instance). That forced Greece to take loans. Now what the people never learned (both the people of Greece and the people of countries loaning TO Greece) was that those loans were not spent for the Greek people, rather to the banks so they could repay their already pre-existant debts to private corporations of various countries.
What does this mean? A few people got VERY very rich while tons of other people are struggling to pay for the banks' deficit.

Now the problem here is, Greece itself should never have been in the eurozone. That's mainly because it cant handle the level of finance that for example, Germany has with their level of industrial markets. Thus we are forced to borrow more, again to repay the banks. And that's just a vicious cycle going on for 5 years now.

The problem is, we will never be able to pay the ever increasing loans and to be able to at least pay the bank fees, we are forced to take worse and worse measures, lowering wages, lowering g pensions etc..

And thus comes the new leftist govt. That practically denounces this politic of loans to repay banks etc as it believes its going to doom the EU (Which it practically already has), therefore they declined to sign another deal and put forth a referendum for the people to vote whether they want to agree to EU terms or not.

Many believe if its a no we go out of the EU and Euro

I personally don't mind that, the euro is mostly a burden on a country that can't manage itself like a heavy industry like Germany for instance.


oooh alright thanks for clearing that up
that was dramatic. still ready 2 die tho!

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Re: The end is nigh for Greece

Postby Shadow00 » 05 Jul 2015, 16:15

Greek voters voted mostly no,barely (51,5% no/48,5% yes) and thus disagree with the terms EU put forth. Finally.

Edit its prolly gonna end up at 60-40 now, most people voting no.
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