Sex Change

[Wow_Give_Up_On_Life]

Sex change is generally a stupid thing.

Thats all that was needed to be said/

[Dr Frook]

Sex change is generally a stupid thing.

Thats all that was needed to be said/

it's something that someone does not do for fun. Not stupid, but something that happens if someone is extremely unhappy with their current form. These people should be supported.

[Munter]

Live and let live I say. If you want to cut off all your bits and go about with no gender then batter in.

I would say that it's a VERY big decision to make, but if you want it enough then you should do it. Its all about how much it affects your quality of life.

This, 'deal with the cards your dealt' idea is nonsense, too. The fact that we can have sex changes can come under the cards you've been dealt, namely living in an age where it is possible.

Gender definition is a murky, unclear topic when we get into transgendered people, but the rule should probably by refer to them the way they want to be referred to, him or her.

I do think that you should try and love your own body before considering surgery, but it may well be the case that for some it is just not possible.

As with all serious discussion topics, this is infinitely more complicated than some may first think.

[azazel_raven_]

Live and let live I say. If you want to cut off all your bits and go about with no gender then batter in.

OOWWWWW.
THAT SOUNDS PAINFUL.

[Lightning Orb]

uhmm wtf?

[pudingeX]

Marilyn Manson is!! :3

[Wow_Give_Up_On_Life]

it's something that someone does not do for fun. Not stupid, but something that happens if someone is extremely unhappy with their current form. These people should be supported.

People need to stop being so worried about their outer appearence. What does a sex change really accomplish? Nothing at all.

I'd be willing to bet a large sum of money, that a majority of people who get sex change operation's are insecure, Selfish. You are what you are, No amount of money should EVER change that.

I'll bring us too Shifty Powers, American Underdog and Hero of Easy Company. In essence he was a normal man. Who just so happened to fight across Europe in WW2.
The difference between him and the majority of Sex Change user's was that he was brimming with Confidence in the beggining, However after the war he was,

“You thought you could do just about anything. [But] after the war was over and you came back out, why, you lost a lot of that. Or at least I did. I lost a lot of confidence.”

How did Shifty Powers deal with his lack of confidence? There is a fantastic article that summarize's it much better than I ever could;
http://artofmanliness.com/2011/05/02/ho ... u-can-too/

Then the Selfishness, Does anybody here have an estimate on how much a Sex Change operation?
http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index ... 402AAKLWp3
For now I will assume it's roughly $5000.00 ( And that is being extremely generous)
You know how many children you could give Happyness too with $5000.00 dollars?
- Feed a large amount of children for a year
- Donate to a local High School
- Donate it towards a cure for a terrible diesese
- Help save endangered animal
- Make an Orginization that raise's Self Awareness about their feelings

[Wow_Give_Up_On_Life]

This, 'deal with the cards your dealt' idea is nonsense, too. The fact that we can have sex changes can come under the cards you've been dealt, namely living in an age where it is possible.

There is a time where you need to draw a line in the sand. We also live in an age where we can easily commit suicide. Around here we also have easy access to drugs. Are you telling me that all these things are "Allright"

[Munter]

This, 'deal with the cards your dealt' idea is nonsense, too. The fact that we can have sex changes can come under the cards you've been dealt, namely living in an age where it is possible.

There is a time where you need to draw a line in the sand. We also live in an age where we can easily commit suicide. Around here we also have easy access to drugs. Are you telling me that all these things are "Allright"

What I'm saying is that saying that people should "deal with the cards they're dealt" is a meaningless thing to say, this is because the cards we are dealt enable us to commit suicide easily, have plastic surgery, kill other people. I'd say that we're all born with a capacity to kill people, so in some sense it could count as a card we are dealt, does this mean we should use it? No. This is why arguing against sex changes with such a phrase is pointless. You'd need to specify what the cards actually are, and it's going to be really hard to decide what are and are not 'cards we are dealt with'.

The real issue is whether you think that it is a moral issue whether people have sex changes or not.

The problem with the money argument is that it can be applied to just about any purchase that is made beyond our necessity. If we buy more food than we need to survive, a bigger roof over our head, more pairs of shoes than we need, we could be accused of being selfish just as the person who splashes out on a sex change.

The other difficulty in understanding this issue arises from the fact that we can not know what these people are feeling, like telling someone who has depression to just 'get on with it'. Just because we can doesn't mean they can. It's hard to empathise with an attitude that you have no way of understanding.

[Wow_Give_Up_On_Life]

What I'm saying is that saying that people should "deal with the cards they're dealt" is a meaningless thing to say, this is because the cards we are dealt enable us to commit suicide easily, have plastic surgery, kill other people. I'd say that we're all born with a capacity to kill people, so in some sense it could count as a card we are dealt, does this mean we should use it? No.

There is more than just a simple 54 deck of cards here. We are talking about fate.
Why do we do most of the things we do? I believe in Darwinisim and a majority of the scientific community. Thus I believe a vast majority of links in life is for survival.

You'd need to specify what the cards actually are, and it's going to be really hard to decide what are and are not 'cards we are dealt with'.

Your missing a major point, I am specifying the amount of money this problem takes to fix. Then I am showing how much good and actually usefull things that people could do instead of this.

A mistake people make nowaday's is using misinformation and stupidy to strengthen and create their opinion's. Most people without the sufficent amount of information are better off with saying "No" than "Yes"

The other difficulty in understanding this issue arises from the fact that we can not know what these people are feeling, like telling someone who has depression to just 'get on with it'. Just because we can doesn't mean they can. It's hard to empathise with an attitude that you have no way of understanding.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sex_reassignment_surgery

What does Sex Reassignment surgery accompish though?
IT JUST GIVES A GIRL A DICK AND A GUY A VAGINA.
That is it! Great accomplishment right there.

If there was something too understand, I'd empathise.
You needing surgery, just too change your junk, face and chest is
useless and stupid.

The only things these people are contributing is a dumber, conservative society.