Argentina's stupid claim over the Falkland islands

[Dr Frook]

tis a bit of an irritating topic for me. From what I can see, the islands have been occupied by UK inhabitants for almost 200 years. The people of the island want to remain a territory of the UK. Yet, despite this, Argentina says they own the islands. They happily proclaim that the UK is acting like a colonial power, yet have they forgotten that they did the very same thing with south america. At least the UK isnt forcing the islanders to remain one of their territories. It is by choice. I doubt the native americans who were displaced and slaughtered by the Spanish and Portuguese colonial powers would have the same feelings.

Maybe all Portuguese and Spanish settlers should be sent back to Spain and Portugal. People have lived on the islands for a couple of centuries. THEY HAVE THE RIGHT TO SAY THEY DON'T WANT THE CRAP ARGENTINIAN SYSTEM AND LIFE IMPOSED ON THEM.

the end.

[Shadowstar1922]

Lol one for all, calm down. xD

And two for all, you do know that The French, Spanish and British tried to settle there but all settlements failed, and Argentina then stepped in and took control of it, and was the first country to actually have a strong grip on the islands and not loose administration?

GB abandoned the settlement in 1776 and when the Spanish took it over, they granted the islands to Argentina upon the Argentinian Confederation's independence. Ever since it's independence, the islands were under Argentine Administration. When GB tried to get it back, AC soon realized that they gotta "claim" it so it stays with them, which happened in 1833. The islands, being part of the country during it's independence, should've stayed with AC at the time, and the islands are even in the Argentinian constitution. .-.

But then the Brits just kick the Argentinians out and the British actually started paying attention to that island and sent a lot of people there who would obviously now want to stay with the British government, because they are, British citizens.

Even though all this has happened, the islands have been British for centuries so it should stay under British rule, but, every day territories still get conquered xD

But, Argentina's claim over the islands is not stupid, they have so many reasons for wanting the Islands back, you could write a 300 page book with detailed writing.

Say if Australia gained it's independence, but New Zealand was already a country. And you gain the territories you have now, but then here comes NZ strolling in and annexes the southern Australian island of Tasmania. Tasmania was originally Australian, it was given to the new Australian Government by the British, but New Zealand claims it. They put strict control over it.

Decades past until you guys finally have a war over the island in which NZ wins. And to this present day, Australia will still want the island because it was originally Australian and it was given to the Aussies.

Does this make sense now?

But as of this day, Argentina shouldn't be fighting over it, since they long lost a "core" on the islands you could say. But they have so many reasons for wanting the islands back. And GB has just as many reasons to match and counter Argentina's claims.

I'm just saying all this dandy stuff since you say Argentina's claim is stupid, when it most certainly is justified.

EDIT: And the Argentinian Government/System is not stupid. Argentina is one of the few countries of this day to get out of the World Economic recession and actually have a positive income instead of a negative income. Argentina's economy is growing rapidly, it sometime matches or is right below China's economic growth(though China's is declining and Argentina's is climbing)

Argentina has a wonderful president who I wish could stay in forever since she has done so many amazing things to make Argentina a better place. But the damn constitution lol.

[Shadow00]

So practically, you encounter frook's points with Argentinian imperialist views.
Legit.

[Shadowstar1922]

So practically, you encounter frook's points with Argentinian imperialist views.
Legit.

Because you know, Argentina will conquer the world once they achieve the Falkand islands, right? Now, the Falkland islands, next, the world.

Because, the Falkland islands will give Argentina enough resources and money to conquer the rest of South America and make a new empire in the world. .-.

[Shadow00]

So practically, you encounter frook's points with Argentinian imperialist views.
Legit.

Because you know, Argentina will conquer the world once they achieve the Falkand islands, right? Now, the Falkland islands, next, the world.

Because, the Falkland islands will give Argentina enough resources and money to conquer the rest of South America and make a new empire in the world. .-.

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/ne ... lands.html
You were saying about resources?
I'm quite sure a billion oil barrels would make quite a large money stack.

[Dr Frook]

Once again, Argentina is heading towards bankruptcy (a once a decade event there). So, they are desperately trying to get the islands using their COLONIAL heritage. They are doing this to fix their balance sheets; repeating what they did historically to the Americas, and getting rid of local inhabitants, ignoring their rights, stealing whatever resources the place has, and then taking back the money to Argentina to mismanage it again, as is tradition there. Purely corrupt, ignoring 200 years of continuous settlement.

Argentina should stop acting like a COLONIAL POWER, and not steal resources from native inhabitants (200 years should make anyone a native of the area).

[Flobalob]

To be honest, Britain won the Falklands war. I think we're quite content to sit here with a giant 'Come at me bro!' look on our face.

Especially now that we sent a Type 45 Destroyer there (each ship has the capability to take down every plane in South America if they were all attacking it at once). Not to brag, but, that's pretty damn awesome.

[Shadow00]

All in all, Argentina is being desperate again.
Hell, I live in Greece but you don't see me raiding Turkey or anything.

[Shadowstar1922]

Once again, Argentina is heading towards bankruptcy (a once a decade event there). So, they are desperately trying to get the islands using their COLONIAL heritage. They are doing this to fix their balance sheets; repeating what they did historically to the Americas, and getting rid of local inhabitants, ignoring their rights, stealing whatever resources the place has, and then taking back the money to Argentina to mismanage it again, as is tradition there. Purely corrupt, ignoring 200 years of continuous settlement.

Argentina should stop acting like a COLONIAL POWER, and not steal resources from native inhabitants (200 years should make anyone a native of the area).

Argentina is not heading towards bankrupcy, because of Cristina Fernandez/Kircher, the country has made great economic growth and recovery since the 1922-2002 economic recession.

Argentina by the end of 2013 is expected to have a positive income rather than a negative deficit and will be working on repaying their debts. .-.

And, Argentina has been claiming the Falkland Islands for A LONG time, before this discovery of oil in the Falkland Islands. I highly doubt the Argentinian Confederation knew about the oil in the 1820's and 30's and all the way up until now.

And, it's extremely ironic when you call ARGENTINA the colonial power rather than The United Kingdom, because the UK did that to Australia, India, Ireland and BIG TIME on Africa.

[Dr Frook]

The UK has been claiming the falkland islands for much longer than Argentina. That is the point. Also, when you say Argentina, you mean Spain. They only gained independence in the 19th century. This issue precedes Argentina's independence. If anything, Spain should be arguing with UK over ownership, not Spain's colony, Argentina.

look, there is no way anyone can call the UK a colonial power, without calling Argentina the same. Seriously, Spain was just as invasive as the UK ever was. Argentina had a very short lived, tenuous hold on the islands. Britain on the other hand, maintained a strong, long presence. Regardless, the inhabitants of the islands now have the absolute right to veto any colonial claims on the land.

Argentina is an economic nightmare. It barely survives by restructuring its debt - ie not paying the full amount it actually owes to the people it borrowed from. They are on a knifes edge and it will take a lot of doing to avoid another default.

anyway, this is just my view on events. Happy to hear other peoples thoughts