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World War 3:
Russia, India, Iran, Syria, North Korea, Estonia, Kazakhstan, Lithuania, Armenia, Azerbaijan, Georgia, Latvia, Moldova, Ukraine, and Uzbekistan
V.S.
United States, Britian, Germany, France(possibly), Israel, Canada, Mexico, Japan(possibly), and South Korea
Russia, India, Iran, Syria, North Korea, Estonia, Kazakhstan, Lithuania, Armenia, Azerbaijan, Georgia, Latvia, Moldova, Ukraine, and Uzbekistan
V.S.
United States, Britian, Germany, France(possibly), Israel, Canada, Mexico, Japan(possibly), and South Korea
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hold on there. ukraine with russia???? you know that nearly the whole of ukraine hates russia correct?
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ghost 9 wrote:World War 3:
Russia, India, Iran, Syria, North Korea, Estonia, Kazakhstan, Lithuania, Armenia, Azerbaijan, Georgia, Latvia, Moldova, Ukraine, and Uzbekistan
V.S.
United States, Britian, Germany, France(possibly), Israel, Canada(possibly), Japan(possibly), and South Korea
Forgot Mexico O.o
The NAFTA Agreement brings Canada, the US, and Mexico close allies, so if there was a world war, Canada and Mexico would be with the US, if the US got in the war, same if Mexico or Canada got in the war first. Reasons why, for economic reasons. Kinda self explanatory O.o
So, you should include Mexico with the US.
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oh wait nooo i see what he did. the old ussr with a few extras
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I can see this happening...Just depends if allies are made before that..Besides...Unless we keep the treaties till 2024, no one can attack us...and we can't attack them lol
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"Five years after the Orange Revolution turned the huge post-Soviet state toward the West, newly elected President Viktor Yanukovich has turned it back toward Moscow in just a few months.
Some describe the twist as a pragmatic move to restore the economic synergies of the USSR era. But others warn that the wolf of Russian imperialism is stalking the region, and that the benefits being offered to Ukraine – such as cheap energy and capital for the hard-hit industrial sector – are intended to drag it back into Moscow’s jaws.
Mr. Yanukovich, elected in February on pledges to restore Ukraine's tattered relationship with Russia, has moved more swiftly and decisively than anyone imagined. He has reversed Ukraine's foreign policy priorities away from the West-leaning agenda of his predecessor, Viktor Yushchenko, and toward sweeping political rapprochement and economic reintegration with Russia.
Critics say that even if Ukraine’s pro-West opposition returns to power in a few years, they may be unable to sever the fresh bonds that Yanukovich is forging with Moscow.
Yanukovich's swift moves
In March, Yanukovich quietly shut down a government commission that had been preparing the country for eventual membership in NATO, removing that controversial option from Ukraine's to-do list. Last month he met Russian President Dmitry Medvedev and signed a deal to extend Moscow's lease on the Ukrainian port of Sevastopol, where the Russian Navy's Black Sea Fleet is headquartered, for 25 years. In exchange, Ukraine will get a 30 percent discount on imported Russian gas.
Infuriated by the deal, Ukrainian opposition deputies hurled eggs and smoke bombs inside the parliament while thousands of protesters shouted their dismay in the streets outside. But a newly created and unexpectedly strong pro-Yanukovich coalition in the 450-seat parliament, known as the Supreme Rada, ensured the bargain was ratified by a healthy 10-vote margin.
And in the past week or so Russian Prime Minister Vladimir Putin has fired off a series of dramatic military proposals. If accepted, they will reintegrate Ukrainian and Russian elements of the former Soviet military-industrial economy that were sundered two decades ago by the Soviet collapse – including the nuclear power establishment, the aviation industry, and Mr. Putin's personal favorite: energy pipeline networks.
Opposition decries 'totalitarian merger'
Ukrainian opposition leader Yulia Tymoshenko, who lost the presidential polls narrowly to Yanukovich, told the Russian newspaper Kommersant this week that the moves are part of a Putin-authored plan to "liquidate Ukraine." (http://www.csmonitor.com/World/Europe/2 ... ard-Moscow)
Some describe the twist as a pragmatic move to restore the economic synergies of the USSR era. But others warn that the wolf of Russian imperialism is stalking the region, and that the benefits being offered to Ukraine – such as cheap energy and capital for the hard-hit industrial sector – are intended to drag it back into Moscow’s jaws.
Mr. Yanukovich, elected in February on pledges to restore Ukraine's tattered relationship with Russia, has moved more swiftly and decisively than anyone imagined. He has reversed Ukraine's foreign policy priorities away from the West-leaning agenda of his predecessor, Viktor Yushchenko, and toward sweeping political rapprochement and economic reintegration with Russia.
Critics say that even if Ukraine’s pro-West opposition returns to power in a few years, they may be unable to sever the fresh bonds that Yanukovich is forging with Moscow.
Yanukovich's swift moves
In March, Yanukovich quietly shut down a government commission that had been preparing the country for eventual membership in NATO, removing that controversial option from Ukraine's to-do list. Last month he met Russian President Dmitry Medvedev and signed a deal to extend Moscow's lease on the Ukrainian port of Sevastopol, where the Russian Navy's Black Sea Fleet is headquartered, for 25 years. In exchange, Ukraine will get a 30 percent discount on imported Russian gas.
Infuriated by the deal, Ukrainian opposition deputies hurled eggs and smoke bombs inside the parliament while thousands of protesters shouted their dismay in the streets outside. But a newly created and unexpectedly strong pro-Yanukovich coalition in the 450-seat parliament, known as the Supreme Rada, ensured the bargain was ratified by a healthy 10-vote margin.
And in the past week or so Russian Prime Minister Vladimir Putin has fired off a series of dramatic military proposals. If accepted, they will reintegrate Ukrainian and Russian elements of the former Soviet military-industrial economy that were sundered two decades ago by the Soviet collapse – including the nuclear power establishment, the aviation industry, and Mr. Putin's personal favorite: energy pipeline networks.
Opposition decries 'totalitarian merger'
Ukrainian opposition leader Yulia Tymoshenko, who lost the presidential polls narrowly to Yanukovich, told the Russian newspaper Kommersant this week that the moves are part of a Putin-authored plan to "liquidate Ukraine." (http://www.csmonitor.com/World/Europe/2 ... ard-Moscow)
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danny wrote:oh wait nooo i see what he did. the old ussr with a few extras
Yes. Since 2009, Former USSR countries have made trade aggreements with Russia. It was Russia's plan to bring the countries together, and to help their economies. Most of the former nations agreed to it, and it has helped most if not all of the participating nations' economies.
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well then it appears that ukraine's forces would likely be mostly conscript armies, however it is to be assumed that their wlite unites would be nearly fanatical as will be russia's. old haits die hard as well as indoctrination in training.
the material may be different but the nationalism demonstrated by both russian and ukrainian forces is undoubtedly going to be a factor.
what say you all about where china and the indo-china countries would fit in all of this?
the material may be different but the nationalism demonstrated by both russian and ukrainian forces is undoubtedly going to be a factor.
what say you all about where china and the indo-china countries would fit in all of this?
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Doesn't Ukraine have about 1 million t0 3 million, and one of the best militarizes out there? Or, is my knowledge of Ukraine that old. O.o
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