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Illegal Trolling

Postby beana 9000 » 04 Apr 2012, 14:07

I saw this when I was going to search something. It caught my eye,because once again,the government is sticking its nose where it doesn't belong. By the way,this is in Arizona. Most people do it to make people mad,for their own sake,and all that. Here is the raw copy,edited out of the links:




News wrote:Arizona marches to the beat of its own drummer. But if that drummer gets upset and starts hollering on the Internet, he might get tossed in the clink.
After spending years targeting illegal aliens, the Grand Canyon State is turning its sights on obnoxious Internet users (commonly called 'trolls'). A new update to the state's telecommunications harassment bill could make the practice of harassing people online illegal.
Arizona House Bill 2549 has already passed both of the state's legislative bodies and is currently sitting on the desk of Governor Jan Brewer. While there's a lot in there that doesn't concern trolling, here's the line that has people worried:
It is unlawful for any person, with intent to terrify, intimidate, threaten, harass, annoy or offend, to use ANY ELECTRONIC OR DIGITAL DEVICE and use any obscene, lewd or profane language or suggest any lewd or lascivious act, or threaten to inflict physical harm to the person or property of any person.
Violators could be charged with a Class 1 misdemeanor and face up to 6 months in jail. If electronic devices are used to stalk someone, the charges then become a Class 3 felony, with penalties ranging from a minimum sentence of two and a half years in jail for non-dangerous offenders with no prior record to 25 years.

At the heart of the bill is an anti-bullying agenda. Cyber-bullying has been on the rise in recent years and has been in the news lately. A 2010 report in The New York Times found that one of out five middle-school students said they had been victims of cyberbullying.
Despite its good intentions, the Arizona law is already being called "overly broad" by critics. By using vague terms like "annoy" and "offend," it could easily encompass Internet forums or even comments like the ones found at the end of this story.
Free speech groups say they don't believe the law would ever stand up to court scrutiny if Gov. Brewer does, in fact, sign it. And many have pointed out the flaws in the bill to the governor herself.
"Government may criminalize speech that rises to the level of harassment and many states have laws that do so, but this legislation takes a law meant to address irritating phone calls and applies it to communication on web sites, blogs, listserves and other Internet communication," Media Coalition wrote in a letter last week.


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This brings a whole new level to having no privacy on the internet,loss of freedom of speech,and most of all the fact that we can poke fun at things we don't like.
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Re: Illegal Trolling

Postby Dr Frook » 05 Apr 2012, 04:21

the internet is still in it's infancy.

it needs time to grow up.

mistakes will be made
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Re: Illegal Trolling

Postby Dark_Ace » 05 Apr 2012, 04:22

the government should not be so nosy all the time y'know? :|
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Re: Illegal Trolling

Postby beana 9000 » 06 Apr 2012, 13:31

Dark_Ace wrote:the government should not be so nosy all the time y'know? :|

They always stick their nose into everything. From the internet to abortions. Just about anything you could name,they could get into it.
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Re: Illegal Trolling

Postby ghost 9 » 07 Apr 2012, 00:44

beana 9000 wrote:
Dark_Ace wrote:the government should not be so nosy all the time y'know? :|

They always stick their nose into everything. From the internet to abortions. Just about anything you could name,they could get into it.

1.) Internet bullying, had they not gotten involved, would be allot worse.
2.) Abortion is a very serious debate. It ranges from religious people, to humanitarians, to people who just think it's wrong, to people who believe it's the woman's choice. Then there's the fact that past the 2nd trimester, it's considered an actual living thing, and ergo it cannot be aborted in a few states. I for one think abortion is wrong, there are foster homes for a reason. While it may be painful, we have anesthesia for a reason, as well as health insurance, medicare, etc.
3.) The government needs to regulate things, or otherwise the internet is going to be like walking into Somalia. You could end up getting your IP jacked, your passwords stolen, and, if you put in your social security number anywhere at any point, end up having your life ruined by frauds. Government action will always be necessary to an extent. Unfortunately the "extent" is rather hard to see all the time. Thus they set things in motion on occasions that tend to be taken wrong. Well guess what? Without your government, you'd be dealing with rape, murder, and allot of other crimes because there'd be no police force or actual military.

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Re: Illegal Trolling

Postby danny » 07 Apr 2012, 07:40

ghost your argument is invalid. i have guns. someone tries to hurt me, i kill them with out government, because without government the playing field becomes level, and killing the murderers, stealing from the thieves, killing the rapists all becomes just as legal as what they do without government. all government does is defend those who are incapable of defending themselves. and that's all it should do.
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Re: Illegal Trolling

Postby Hitokiri » 07 Apr 2012, 15:23

spoken as a true american.

Firstly on the topic, they won't be able to do it.
there is no way to regulate that. Even if they pass it, it is by no means a pro-active thing.
It may be re-active, but by then the damage is already done.
So it's a futile attempt and probably more meant to get votes in rather than do anything.

What you advocate is anarchy danny.
and if you think you can shoot anyone, or that you are in fact in the capability of, you're much mistaken.
As thieves won't hesitate and they know they're going in, you don't know they're coming.
You will always be second to shoot then.
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Re: Illegal Trolling

Postby danny » 07 Apr 2012, 18:21

hito, if the united states fell into anarchy, i would be on guard and take the proper measures to give me the best chances to be shooting first. if i die well... i died protecting my home

im by no means trying to advocate anarchy, but simply saying that in anarchy, social darwinism becomes very real. the strong and cunning will survive. the weak and stupid will die.

I LIKE government when government knows its place. however its becoming more and more evident that most governments are feared by their people when in reality the opposite should be true
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Re: Illegal Trolling

Postby Shadow00 » 07 Apr 2012, 20:50

danny wrote:
I LIKE government when government knows its place. however its becoming more and more evident that most governments are feared by their people when in reality the opposite should be true

v for vendetta/anonymous? :D

And you have no idea about government's expansion. You see, government is behind EVERYTHING. But not the us government or any other country's government. I believe that there is a set of 20-30 VERY powerful people that plan all this. And ofcourse we respond EXACTLY the way they want us to. (example: situation in greece now was known to politicians in 1998. So for 14 years we are doing exactly as planned...)
So, that government is behind google (or any other web colossus), music charts, film charts, politics, economics, war situations, EVERYTHING… And ofcourse we can't but see what is to follow....

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Re: Illegal Trolling

Postby danny » 08 Apr 2012, 07:53

shadow that belief to me is ludicrous. i simply believe that man as a species is inherently stupid. that when men have power over others they seek to serve themselves and not the people they are meant to serve. they act as if there will be no consequence, and usually there isn't because people are too dumb or lazy to care and do something. what has public education done? brainwashed people into thinking that government is the only way. what has pop culture done? turned the next generation into idiots. the world is an oligarchy yes, but not the way you are thinking. the amount of people with international power is VERY few compared to 7 BILLION+ people it is a a couple hundred men shadow that decide the fate of the world. they are the legislative bodies of the worlds major powers, the executive branches of the worlds major powers, and the judicial branches of the worlds major powers. these men control billions of lives in the developed world, and try to run the lives of those in undeveloped countries and developing countries by telling their governments what to do.

this isn't the way it was meant to be.
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