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Re: Why We Still Need Feminism

Postby mmm » 11 Mar 2015, 20:29

When a woman with clear marks of abuse runs over the man whose dead body was still clutching the weapon he was using to beat her can get sent to jail for premeditated murder, we STILL NEED FEMINISM.

When more women are killed by their male partner/ex male partner, we still need feminism.

When 3 (or 4, depending on who you ask) women are killed every day by their partners, we still need feminism.
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Re: Why We Still Need Feminism

Postby Wow_Give_Up_On_Life » 12 Mar 2015, 05:48

When a woman with clear marks of abuse runs over the man whose dead body was still clutching the weapon he was using to beat her can get sent to jail for premeditated murder, we STILL NEED FEMINISM.


Once again this chick has ten thousand different sources that she can go to. Tell me how many sources are there that exist when a man is beaten by a women?

Or how about you point out how most divorced men are emotionally and physically abused by their ex's?

Of course not, women can do 0 wrong.

When more women are killed by their male partner/ex male partner, we still need feminism.


Point to me the actual factual statistic that is unbiased and I'll take this seriously. So are you going to answer the real statistic that says 60% of family homicides are committed by the mother? Or are you going to ignore that?

When 3 (or 4, depending on who you ask) women are killed every day by their partners, we still need feminism.


Once again just going to point out that 6 out of every 10 family homicides are committed by the mother. You wouldn't want to look at the death toll in Iraq, Libya, Nigeria or Mexico would you?

American feminism is trash.
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Re: Why We Still Need Feminism

Postby Tycoon » 12 Mar 2015, 20:08

Wow_Give_Up_On_Life wrote:Once again this chick has ten thousand different sources that she can go to. Tell me how many sources are there that exist when a man is beaten by a women?

Or how about you point out how most divorced men are emotionally and physically abused by their ex's?

Of course not, women can do 0 wrong.


Men being abused in a relationship IS a feminism issue. Actual, real feminists protest this being overlooked and help the men involved.

Plus, you need to look at the finer details of the abuse. She might be viciously attacked if her partner finds out she's phoned a friend he doesn't like, so imagine if he discovered she phoned a helpline, or if she's visited someone to explain the situation. She doesn't have 10000 places to go.
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Re: Why We Still Need Feminism

Postby Shadow00 » 12 Mar 2015, 23:43

mmm wrote:When a woman with clear marks of abuse runs over the man whose dead body was still clutching the weapon he was using to beat her can get sent to jail for premeditated murder, we STILL NEED FEMINISM.

When more women are killed by their male partner/ex male partner, we still need feminism.

When 3 (or 4, depending on who you ask) women are killed every day by their partners, we still need feminism.

So just america and other undeveloped culturally countries need feminism, yes?

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Re: Why We Still Need Feminism

Postby mmm » 13 Mar 2015, 03:48

Wow_Give_Up_On_Life wrote:
When a woman with clear marks of abuse runs over the man whose dead body was still clutching the weapon he was using to beat her can get sent to jail for premeditated murder, we STILL NEED FEMINISM.


Once again this chick has ten thousand different sources that she can go to. Tell me how many sources are there that exist when a man is beaten by a women?
The police were called twice, and he was arrested once for breaching the peace, a reduced charge. "But the most she could do was get a court order barring more threats, harassment or assaults against her while he was visiting their son." One cannot simply disengage from the father of your children when he interacts with your child.
Article I am referencing: http://www.addictinginfo.org/2015/03/10/21-year-old-survives-attack-by-crazed-ex-faces-decades-in-prison-for-refusing-to-die-quietly-image/

Or how about you point out how most divorced men are emotionally and physically abused by their ex's?

Of course not, women can do 0 wrong.
I never said that. All abuse is ugly and shameful.
When more women are killed by their male partner/ex male partner, we still need feminism.


Point to me the actual factual statistic that is unbiased and I'll take this seriously. So are you going to answer the real statistic that says 60% of family homicides are committed by the mother? Or are you going to ignore that?
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0BzR_9M-1WtJTWmVrNGs3VTkwUFE/edit
"A larger percentage of female than male homicide victims were killed by an
intimate partner when the offender relationship was known"

When 3 (or 4, depending on who you ask) women are killed every day by their partners, we still need feminism.


Once again just going to point out that 6 out of every 10 family homicides are committed by the mother. You wouldn't want to look at the death toll in Iraq, Libya, Nigeria or Mexico would you?
http://www.bjs.gov/content/pub/pdf/fvs03.pdf
"Eight in ten murderers who killed a
family member were male. Males were
83% of spouse murderers and 75% of
murderers who killed a boyfriend or
girlfriend."

American feminism is trash.

I can't be bothered to look up the statistics for other countries. I put the burden of proof on you for that.

As Tyc said, feminism would seek to end abuse of all kinds, including female on male. Why can't we have a simple discussion about crimes about women without someone complaining about what happens to men? Sure, bad stuff happens to men, but you don't yell "I ALSO KNOW SOMEONE WHO DIED" at someone else's funeral, do you?
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Re: Why We Still Need Feminism

Postby Boxorino » 14 Mar 2015, 02:09

that was dramatic. still ready 2 die tho!

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Re: Why We Still Need Feminism

Postby The Divine Potato » 14 Mar 2015, 16:32

The only one of the recent reasons I do not agree with is murder in response to a violent partner, I believe regardless even if the queen ran over Prince Albert saying he chased her with a mace should be at least held accountable by law, the scenario I presented is a rather exceptional circumstance but if you can't get my message in it then I suggest not replying.

Murder isn't a solution, it's just another, much bigger problem.
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Re: Why We Still Need Feminism

Postby mmm » 14 Mar 2015, 16:59

The Divine Potato wrote:The only one of the recent reasons I do not agree with is murder in response to a violent partner, I believe regardless even if the queen ran over Prince Albert saying he chased her with a mace should be at least held accountable by law, the scenario I presented is a rather exceptional circumstance but if you can't get my message in it then I suggest not replying.

Murder isn't a solution, it's just another, much bigger problem.

Murder in response to abuse can be very very complicated when the abuse is long term and the murder not a reflex reaction. However, this woman was being attacked when the man was killed. It was in self-defense.
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Re: Why We Still Need Feminism

Postby The Divine Potato » 14 Mar 2015, 23:36

mmm wrote:
The Divine Potato wrote:The only one of the recent reasons I do not agree with is murder in response to a violent partner, I believe regardless even if the queen ran over Prince Albert saying he chased her with a mace should be at least held accountable by law, the scenario I presented is a rather exceptional circumstance but if you can't get my message in it then I suggest not replying.

Murder isn't a solution, it's just another, much bigger problem.

Murder in response to abuse can be very very complicated when the abuse is long term and the murder not a reflex reaction. However, this woman was being attacked when the man was killed. It was in self-defense.


In all honesty I if he had time to get in her car couldnt she have driven to the police station instead of right over her partner?
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Re: Why We Still Need Feminism

Postby mmm » 15 Mar 2015, 06:51

The Divine Potato wrote:
mmm wrote:
The Divine Potato wrote:The only one of the recent reasons I do not agree with is murder in response to a violent partner, I believe regardless even if the queen ran over Prince Albert saying he chased her with a mace should be at least held accountable by law, the scenario I presented is a rather exceptional circumstance but if you can't get my message in it then I suggest not replying.

Murder isn't a solution, it's just another, much bigger problem.

Murder in response to abuse can be very very complicated when the abuse is long term and the murder not a reflex reaction. However, this woman was being attacked when the man was killed. It was in self-defense.


In all honesty I if he had time to get in her car couldnt she have driven to the police station instead of right over her partner?

He jumped into the car after her. Then she got out. Then at some point she ended up in the car again and the man was crushed against her bumper; she says she doesn't know how it happened.

I'm not sure I understand, do you not believe in killing someone period? Like if you have a handgun and some guy is beating you with a lead pipe, you believe that you still should not kill the attacker?
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