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Re: Abortions

Postby Lightning Orb » 30 Mar 2011, 12:15

NeXuS111 wrote:if u dont want 2 take care of it then y the hell did u have a baby in the first place!!!???

which is my point exactly, & half of the stupid teenagers of America wont care for their children anyways so why bring a life into the world that may have to suffer!?!?!

NeXuS111 wrote:this reminds meh of my mom...she is a horrible mother who could care less wat happens 2 meh...she never took care of meh she always dropped meh off everywhere!! i hope the mommy of my kids wont be like my mom and do the things she did..

& heyy lookie here! we all have mommy & daddy issues.. they know what they did to us..
the past never fades.. :cry:
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Re: Abortions

Postby NeXuS111 » 30 Mar 2011, 20:48

love dw about tht..just 4gets about tht the past is the past and even tho it never fades u can atleast try 2 4get about it....orby we both have probs but we can both 4get about them..
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Re: Abortions

Postby Lightning Orb » 01 Apr 2011, 12:37

I can't forget the past..even at the age i am now, i can still remmember what i did when i was 2 & up!
My brain is wired to remmember everything.. & i mean everything..
there is no escaping what happened :cry:
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Re: Abortions

Postby kerachery » 13 Oct 2011, 06:14

What are the advantages to making abortion illegal? I know there is a lot of controversy on this and such. I also know that you could give me a long list of consequences. But I am simply asking for legit advantages to abortion being illegal for my 1-AC I'm writing for school. Please let me know.

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Re: Abortions

Postby Lightning Orb » 13 Oct 2011, 12:40

kerachery wrote:What are the advantages to making abortion illegal?

It isnt a nice thing to kill a child, Now is it? Unwanted life is always wanted somewhere else on earth. Do not kill a child just because you are unsatisfied with that fact of being pergnant.
even if you just let it under the care of a foster family or an Orphanage, at least it will have abetter home in hands of a gaurdian that actually wants to care for them.
Killing life seems like a waste. You're here arent you? Nobody got an abortion to get rid of you, did they? Nope. Why waste you're time getting rid of a baby, that could grow into a wonderful person someday?
Sure there is always that chance that they will come looking for you, and shutting them out inst always a good thing, but it might be nice for them to see who their real birth parents were.
Now if you're baby was caused by rape, then that might be a different angle to look at things. Although you can't stand the fact of having a baby you didn't even want in the first place living inside of you, or the person you love, don't kill it. Let it live. Some very great people were babies of a rape cause.
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Re: Abortions

Postby Hitokiri » 13 Oct 2011, 15:04

With that everyone has proved that there are no advantages to making abortion illegal.
Those that wish for that are based on views of taking the moral highground, not on reality.

you can make 3 groups in this:
-those cases where there is psychological problems (the best example is mentioned already, pregnancy after a rape).
- those with physical problems (those instances where the life of mother/child to be is threatened).
- those of where the women deliberately choose for this without the above.

In reality abortions would still happen, be it by women themselves, taking drugs (or by other means) themselves in an uncontrolled environment.

In any and all cases mentioned above, abortion being illegal and not controlled would have more severe disadvantages than the "advantage" of taking the moral highground.

disadvantages would include death by both mother and child before birth or at birth.
Serious life lasting psychological trauma for all parties included.

Strict rules concerning the matter, a case by case review of the complete induvidual situation and good guidance in this matter is much more important and would do alot more good than the too simplistic view of making it illegal.

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Re: Abortions

Postby Amy » 13 Oct 2011, 15:59

Lightning Orb wrote:
kerachery wrote:What are the advantages to making abortion illegal?

It isnt a nice thing to kill a child, Now is it? Unwanted life is always wanted somewhere else on earth. Do not kill a child just because you are unsatisfied with that fact of being pergnant.
even if you just let it under the care of a foster family or an Orphanage, at least it will have abetter home in hands of a gaurdian that actually wants to care for them.
Killing life seems like a waste. You're here arent you? Nobody got an abortion to get rid of you, did they? Nope. Why waste you're time getting rid of a baby, that could grow into a wonderful person someday?
Sure there is always that chance that they will come looking for you, and shutting them out inst always a good thing, but it might be nice for them to see who their real birth parents were.
Now if you're baby was caused by rape, then that might be a different angle to look at things. Although you can't stand the fact of having a baby you didn't even want in the first place living inside of you, or the person you love, don't kill it. Let it live. Some very great people were babies of a rape cause.
Everyone deserves a chance to live. Even if they're not wanted by you.



Yet it simply doesn't work like that...

Although hito has pretty much wrapped it up, he missed out one crucial thing in response to your post.

There is a small chance, god, 1 in a billion most likely that a child from an adopted background will do something really great in their lives. (not insulting adopted people, simply saying that there's a very small chance).

Not only that, but the amount of children going INTO care is going up, and the amount of children going OUT of care/being adopted is going down. Not everyone gets adopted. Very few people EVER get adopted - and that is harmful to the child themselves, and the mother who may always worry what happens to this kid.

If all the kids aborted this year were put into care, 99% of them will still be in care this time 5 years later. Is that really fair on them? Is that going to help the economy? Help the mothers who had them?

Not everything in life is 100% great and fine - and to even consider abortion, the people having this child must know that it will never be in a good enviroment. And in that case, the child would be suffering.

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Re: Abortions

Postby Ashez » 18 Oct 2011, 05:32

woofwoof wrote:I think abortions are bad in any case. And here is my reason.

I once had a dream that I was pregnant. And I was still young, like the same age I am now, 16. It was the most terrifying dream I've ever had, but the reason behind that is, I realized I was carrying another LIFE inside me, another PERSON that would grow up to be almost just like you and me. It scared the hell outta me, because I didn't know how I would be able to care for this other life. But it was a life, so I knew I had to do it. That's why I believe abortions are wrong. You're killing a LIFE. You're destroying a PERSON. No matter their past, where or who they came from, they're still a person, they're still a living breathing human being. And when you kill that human being because of whatever reason, that's basically murder. Now, I understand the whole rape thing, but even then, think about the CHILD and not yourself! Just because you were raped and that's a rape baby, doesn't mean you have to be selfish and kill the poor thing! They want a life just like you do, so let them live it! And if you put them up for adoption, and they come looking for you, who cares? Tell them the truth! It might be hard, but life is a challenge, we just have to deal with it! And when it comes to babies that have disorders, let them live too! Because every day doctors are coming up with new medicine to fight these disorders and bring a child back to the reality of life. So let the child live! All they want is to live just like you and I. And besides, if doctors can come up with a way to kill a child, they can come up with a way to SAVE a child. Don't take the easy way out, because later on down the line, that one mistake might come back to bite you in the butt. Do what you think is right, but, in the end, remember this.

If you were that child, wouldn't you have wanted to live?


I totally agree with Woof. I will also quote one of my favorite quotes. "A person is a person no matter how small." It's against the law to commit murder. Abortion is the same thing. You are murdering a person. A human being.
In my opinion, any girl that is stupid enough to have sex without having a way to support her baby or being married needs to carry the baby all 9 months. She made the mistake and she needs to deal with it. If she can't care for the baby she can put it up for adoption. I am an adopted child. I could of been one of the many babies that were aborted. I wouldn't of had a family, my wonderful friends, amazing boyfriend, my artistic abilities, or my great life.
Before you think about getting an abortion think of what you are keeping the world from having. Another person who could grow up to change the world in some way or to be just the world to one person. A life is a life. Don't end it. The world needs more love to cover all the hate and death. Live. Love. Laugh. Spread love and spread life around to everyone you meet. You never know who you may help.

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Re: Abortions

Postby Amy » 18 Oct 2011, 06:39

So, going back to my point, you were one of the children who were picked up. You're one of the lucky kids who's made their way into a cushy life. But I can tell you that there will be someone who was in your adoption house, hospital, who is still in adoption.

Maybe you were adopted when you were 1, 3, 10. Having to sit and wait out days in these adoption places is so damaging to people, I know this, I know people who have committed suicide because it's not a good enviroment for them to be in. They weren't picked up like the growing number of people who will live and even die in care.

65,520 were taken into care in the UK last year - 3,050 adopted.

Only 60 of them were under 2 years old, and had a chance of forgetting they weren't wanted by their biological parents. And as Orby said:
Lightning Orb wrote:I can't forget the past..even at the age i am now, i can still remmember what i did when i was 2 & up!
My brain is wired to remmember everything.. & i mean everything..
there is no escaping what happened :cry:


Is it fair that 65,460 children have the burden of memories of their childhood in care?

If abortion wasn't around...

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Re: Abortions

Postby Emo_Kid » 18 Oct 2011, 12:34

Not exactly what I think she was reffering to, Amy.
Although, is it a matter of having a child and keeping it in your family not even wanting it to be there?
This is where abuse, and drugging takes place. If you never wanted the kid, odds are, the parents ar most likely to give that child a very hard time.
My one friend was a foster kid, when he was sent to certain famlies, they drugged him to make him leave them alone because they didn't even want him. That's the sadest thing ever to me.
Don't bring someone into the world you don't wish to even have their because they too may suffer, from feeling unloved, and feeling neglected by his or her own family, as a whole.


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