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Postby paladin » 04 Feb 2013, 04:27
mmm wrote:Apparently, the Anonymous defective is composed not only of individuals with self-esteem issues, but also complete morons.
I say this because even our haxor friends here at FWG know about the attack the Anonymous infective are mounting on a major U.S government website. That's right, these self-righteous keyboard warriors are publicizing their attack plans (because remember, these big boys declared war on the U.S Government) and handing them out to children like candy on Halloween.
No doubt, the Anonymous (teenagers with..) affective (...disorders) are planning something especially dastardly like pinning a photo of a blue waffle to the White House Web Page, or maybe exposing the names of U.S Congressmen with pornographic magazine subscriptions.
Or maybe even posting Pedobear all up on the US Government's page. Would be a nice picture, eh?
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Postby ghost 9 » 04 Feb 2013, 04:38
The lack of respect from a moderator is astounding.
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Postby mmm » 04 Feb 2013, 04:44
ghost 9 wrote:The lack of respect from a moderator is astounding.
I don't need to respect a group of (EDIT: I don't like recycling words) sanctimonious, self-serving try-hards. It's not a personal attack on anyone on FWG.
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Postby J3rdegree » 04 Feb 2013, 04:47
mmm wrote:ghost 9 wrote:The lack of respect from a moderator is astounding.
I don't need to respect a group of self-righteous try-hards. It's not a personal attack on anyone on FWG.
How could it be a personal attack when these people are ANONYMOUS and aren't known, or does the word ANONYMOUS have a new meaning that i havn't heard of? ;P
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Postby ghost 9 » 04 Feb 2013, 11:42
I don't recall stating it was a personal attack. And so by your logic, I can attack Christians on here, right? Or Islamists? They're groups of people, and attacking the group wouldn't be a personal attack?
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Postby mmm » 04 Feb 2013, 18:04
ghost 9 wrote:I don't recall stating it was a personal attack. And so by your logic, I can attack Christians on here, right? Or Islamists? They're groups of people, and attacking the group wouldn't be a personal attack?
Oh, I'm wrong. As you've said before, anonymous isn't a group, it's a (loosely bound and maniacal) COLLECTIVE.
 For trying.
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Postby Sylvia » 04 Feb 2013, 18:33
Right, to clear this up, Anonymous are not a group, or paticlarly a collective.
To be part of anonymous, you simply have to want to be. I could be - and I have little hacking knowledge (or computers in general, on that matter).
In my opinion, the idea of anonymous is good - protesting for what is right - LGBT rights, pulling down Westboro baptist church, getting rid of child porn - but the method is wrong.
It's illegal. People offering their computers up for LOIC/DDoS attacks, though they may not know it, are doing illegal things. The reason people have joined Anonymous is because it is a crowd identity for them - they have some way of feeling important, defining themselves.
And if any so called members of Anonymous who have no paticular knowledge of computing, who are teens with various problems that should be addressed with a therapist rather than illegalities - what you are doing isn't the right thing. This isn't some kind of movie where the cool kids take down the bad guys.
Mmm is right - teens these days have been brainwashed into the idea that they are fighting against the corrupt, terrible government. Calm down, get your picket sign and go outside and make a peaceful, meaningful protest. Gather your friends and raise money for charity. Offer to help out the elderly...that's how to protest the current ways of the world.
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Postby Blood Knight » 04 Feb 2013, 20:48
Unlike most teens, the people that say they support anonymous on this site pretty well know how to "Hack" or at least has a very high knowledge of computers. Bringing up that we are "Brain Washed Teens" makes no point to us. Those wanna-be teens download LOIC and pick a random site that they got banned from and are mad. Those are the brainwashed teens because they have no idea what the hell they are doing / being told. And Syl, with what you said of "Calm down, get your picket sign and go outside and make a peaceful, meaningful protest. Gather your friends and raise money for charity. Offer to help out the elderly...that's how to protest the current ways of the world.", the world changes with technology. It's much easier to protest something online and I would bet that a lot more people would see it too. And I highly disagree with you stating that "The reason people have joined Anonymous is because it is a crowd identity for them - they have some way of feeling important, defining themselves." It is a way for people to come together with certain skills and make a difference.
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Postby Sylvia » 04 Feb 2013, 21:37
I fully understand your thoughts that you (I'll refer to you, in whole Anonymous is included in that) believe you are doing the most efficient, and right, thing.
Perhaps you do know how to hack - not something paticularly impressive, it is a learnt skill - put enough monkeys on typewriters and they'll eventually tap out Shakespeare.
I will never prejudice against a group trying to make a good difference, however, I don't believe Anonymous are. By acting behind a screen, you are fighting because you have a collective group. Basic human psychology. By using DDoS attacks, you are being hypocrites - taking down someone's free speech because you want your free speech? That's not how it works.
You're not making any active, positive change - for example:
- Taking down the Westboro website. Why? Why not spend that time promoting LGBT rights, raising money for better causes?
I fail to see why you're not better off making a positive change in society through peaceful, effective work and protests. Because it's easier and more people will see it?
Rosa Parks refused to give up her seat on a bus, and most black people in the city then boycotted the buses - for over a year. The internet wasn't around.
What is so difficult about a positive change?
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Postby ghost 9 » 04 Feb 2013, 21:46
I thank you Syl for forming your opinion in a respective manner.
Also, I can understand why you say that, but at times there are needs for force. Such as the inhumane treatment of the Palistani people, and of the Syrian people. If Anonymous does not show that there will be consequences for their action, than who/'s going to? The UN, and NATO, have showed they wont intervene. Obama himself helps the rebels but labels them as terrorists.
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