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Edward Snowden

Postby paladin » 24 Jun 2013, 04:49

You've all heard about Edward Snowden and his PRISM release, and about how he's in Russia or Hong Kong or Wherever.

But why is the government making such a big deal?

This is why:

The government is essentially a nonfunctioning figurehead for the wills of 2 greater powers. The graph looks like this:

Banking Elite

Military

Elected officials

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Now what does this mean?

It means that a group of mandarins who own incredibly large banks and incredibly large sums of money control everything that happens in the United States of America, and they do so in a couple ways.

1st: Congress
Possibly the biggest joke since FDR had his New Deal passed, the current Congress is full of a large number of self-interested individualists who, between them all, have a total IQ of about 5. Now these blithering, money worshiping fops are running about "Passing Bills and Laws in the best interest of US Citizens" < NOTE: THIS IS ABSOLUTE CRAP!
Which leads us to our next issue:
Credit Reports/Credit Cards:
Another large piece of total bullcrap. Why?
1. The elitist bankers can give you an incredibly large credit score to prevent you from doing, well, anything without cash money, and credit scores, like obesity, are incredibly hard to fix if you are too far in.
2. Credit Cards- the entire concept is to set you up for failure: I have free moneys that i have to pay off later! (( shopping spree )) NOW I HAVE SO MUCH STUFF!
and now im poor
And Poor Kids is our NEXT topic!
Poor peoples/ the Trickle Down system:
What genius came up with this idea? Reagan was an idiot, and reganomics was flawed from the start. Here's the process
1. Bail out big money makers (HEY, BANKERS HAVE MOAR MONEYSZZ)
2. Big money makers hire more people (salaried workers cause you can pay them what you want, or illegal immigrants)
2b. This is where poor people get money. JK! less people get money!
3. Tax poor people harder & make them poorer!
4. Give rich people more money!
5. Middle class expands
6. Poor people become poorer and now cant eat ( bye bye wellfare, medicare(caid) )
7. repeat until poor people start up a hunger games and eat eachother.

What does this have to do with Snowden?
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Everything

the Banking Elite's big thing is "if we do a lil bit here and there, mostly there, we'll distract them from what we're really doing!"

Explained better:
The government does good things for the american people to appease them, while they sneakily create more programs to oppress the citizens of the united states. AS this continues, along with the above issues, the goverment obtains total control and no longer requires, say, Warrants, Trials, or the Constitution. We might as well throw away the Judicial branch altogether and add in the " Sucks to be You " Branch! Furthermore, immigrants from the middle east in general as well as other areas where terrorists are popular, or have a muslim background are more likely to be stopped in immigration due to their heritage or beliefs.
YAY PATRIOT act!


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Re: Edward Snowden

Postby Zia- » 24 Jun 2013, 05:21

how does this affect Zia? i honestly dont know ;_;
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Re: Edward Snowden

Postby y3ds14 » 24 Jun 2013, 05:21

To summarize what he said,
"Ain't nobody got the time fo' dat."
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Re: Edward Snowden

Postby Hitokiri » 24 Jun 2013, 07:57

paladin wrote:Before posting, be sure to not flame, hate, or be an idiot. There are consequences. You have been warned.

1st: Congress
Possibly the biggest joke since FDR had his New Deal passed, the current Congress is full of a large number of self-interested individualists who, between them all, have a total IQ of about 5. Now these blithering, money worshiping fops are running about "Passing Bills and Laws in the best interest of US Citizens" < NOTE: THIS IS ABSOLUTE CRAP!
Which leads us to our next issue:
Credit Reports/Credit Cards:
Another large piece of total bullcrap. Why?
1. The elitist bankers can give you an incredibly large credit score to prevent you from doing, well, anything without cash money, and credit scores, like obesity, are incredibly hard to fix if you are too far in.
2. Credit Cards- the entire concept is to set you up for failure: I have free moneys that i have to pay off later! (( shopping spree )) NOW I HAVE SO MUCH STUFF!
and now im poor
And Poor Kids is our NEXT topic!
Poor peoples/ the Trickle Down system:
What genius came up with this idea? Reagan was an idiot, and reganomics was flawed from the start. Here's the process
1. Bail out big money makers (HEY, BANKERS HAVE MOAR MONEYSZZ)
2. Big money makers hire more people (salaried workers cause you can pay them what you want, or illegal immigrants)
2b. This is where poor people get money. JK! less people get money!
3. Tax poor people harder & make them poorer!
4. Give rich people more money!
5. Middle class expands
6. Poor people become poorer and now cant eat ( bye bye wellfare, medicare(caid) )
7. repeat until poor people start up a hunger games and eat eachother.

What does this have to do with Snowden?
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Everything

If you warn, apply it to yourself too.
American consumer society is what has been a problem for ages.
And the overall competitiveness within the population, the idea that stabbing eachother in the back to move forward is ok to get to your goals.

So you owe it to your culture.
and obviously spending every penny in your economy instead of having something saved.
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Re: Edward Snowden

Postby Shadowstar1922 » 24 Jun 2013, 10:13

America isn't controlled by Chinese bank owners, they're controlled by American Corporations and the Big Banks, that are well, in America.

US Politics would never listen to foreigners :P

And, this has been going on ever since US Imperialism came into play, which is around, I dunno the 1950's? And a good portion of people are aware of it, but can't really do anything about it. And the politicians who bash on others heavily for being pro-established, those guys get out of the game.
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Re: Edward Snowden

Postby paladin » 24 Jun 2013, 14:38

Shadowstar1922 wrote:America isn't controlled by Chinese bank owners, they're controlled by American Corporations and the Big Banks, that are well, in America.

US Politics would never listen to foreigners :P

And, this has been going on ever since US Imperialism came into play, which is around, I dunno the 1950's? And a good portion of people are aware of it, but can't really do anything about it. And the politicians who bash on others heavily for being pro-established, those guys get out of the game.

Mandarin being one of an elite group or class, not the Chinese
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Re: Edward Snowden

Postby Dr Frook » 24 Jun 2013, 23:42

Edward Snowden should be sent back to the US for prosecution, I dont think he did anyone any favors by releasing this stolen information.

keep in mind, the US system may be flawed, have crap associated with it, but its damn good compared with all the fake 3rd world democracies.

I dont think the US did good by spying on its own people, but would you rather have a bomb blow up your school/shopping center, killing your family members?

before anyone goes ahead and craps on the US system, look at the countries that are cheering Snowden's escape - mostly dictatorships, who screw their own people in MUCH WORSE ways every day. Live in a dictatorship for a year and then you will appreciate how good you have it and stop complaining about the US government doing something for your protection.
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Re: Edward Snowden

Postby Shadowstar1922 » 25 Jun 2013, 01:17

FWG Leader wrote:Edward Snowden should be sent back to the US for prosecution, I dont think he did anyone any favors by releasing this stolen information.

keep in mind, the US system may be flawed, have crap associated with it, but its damn good compared with all the fake 3rd world democracies.

I dont think the US did good by spying on its own people, but would you rather have a bomb blow up your school/shopping center, killing your family members?

before anyone goes ahead and craps on the US system, look at the countries that are cheering Snowden's escape - mostly dictatorships, who screw their own people in MUCH WORSE ways every day. Live in a dictatorship for a year and then you will appreciate how good you have it and stop complaining about the US government doing something for your protection.


As I've said with people and their life problems, I'm going to say it here because it applies here.

It doesn't matter if other places have it more hard, the problems in your home country still matter, are still important, and are still disgusting and wrong and corrupt.

America is one of the most corrupt countries in the world, destroying the meaning of democracies and capitalism, just like Stalin did with communism and socialism

It doesn't matter if other areas have it harder, it doesn't change the degree of corruption America has, and their political system.
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Re: Edward Snowden

Postby Hitokiri » 25 Jun 2013, 08:11

FWG Leader wrote:Edward Snowden should be sent back to the US for prosecution, I dont think he did anyone any favors by releasing this stolen information.


Releasing stolen info...
It's only a confirmation of what is already known for more than a decade.
That the program is called Prism instead of echelon is the only news about it.

It's just being blown up out of proportion, just like wikileaks.
Sensation sells you know.
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Re: Edward Snowden

Postby paladin » 27 Jun 2013, 04:18

Hitokiri wrote:
FWG Leader wrote:Edward Snowden should be sent back to the US for prosecution, I dont think he did anyone any favors by releasing this stolen information.


Releasing stolen info...
It's only a confirmation of what is already known for more than a decade.
That the program is called Prism instead of echelon is the only news about it.

It's just being blown up out of proportion, just like wikileaks.
Sensation sells you know.

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